Loose threads of the Void

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

So?? Maybe they should?

What's everyone's take back then? Oh, let me repeat:

"Crystal Tower was a boring, irrelevant story until Shadowbringers retroactively made it good".

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Are you asking me, or are you trying to say "Yes they should"?

To this day Im pretty....eh Middleground about The Crystal Tower storyline.
But Yes I do find it neat it was made MSQ relevant with Shadowbringers.

If they made Voidark MSQ relevant later...neat. But until then, I just look at them as side stories that dont effect the world in the MSQ

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

Cyella? Unukalhai?

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Literally just go talk to them lol

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Mhach, the Void Ark, and Dun Scaith are all on the Source. They're also not really "loose threads", since that story was finished back in Heavensward, so they're not especially relevant anymore.

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Yup. It's like people sometimes just don't really pay attention to what's even happening.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Literally just go talk to them lol

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I would have thought it was obvious that tying up loose threads =/= a few lines of dialogue. It means substantial inclusion in the MSQ or sidequests.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Yup. It's like people sometimes just don't really pay attention to what's even happening.

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its hard to pay attention when they are power leveling their 11 non combat classes and the one combat class. the only thing they could possibly have time for are the forums

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

So is Void Ark suddenly relevant to the MSQ just because Shadowbringers made the events of The Crystal Tower Relevant to its story?

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Just saying it's pretty silly to say "This has nothing to do with MSQ at all so nyeh!" when we already have a case of something not originally being relevant to MSQ being made not just relevant, but mandatory to the story in order to progress.

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

So?? Maybe they should?

What's everyone's take back then? Oh, let me repeat:

"Crystal Tower was a boring, irrelevant story until Shadowbringers retroactively made it good".

Why not give the same treatment to Cait Sith, Cyella, and Unukalhai? Why did we need Y'shtola to follow us into the Void again? What's the point of Zero? Imagine if Cyella replaced Zero, the story would've been 200% better.

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As much as I'd like to see Cyella back in action, she can barely wear her armor without getting winded, let alone fight. Had to dig through Garland Tools to make sure I was remembering that one right.

Leofard the Goat on the other hand...

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

I would have thought it was obvious that tying up loose threads =/= a few lines of dialogue. It means substantial inclusion in the MSQ or sidequests.

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They've never been part of the MSQ. You'd be forcing players to do Warring Triad and get one of each job to 80 to complete all ShB Job Quests. Also, if you paid attention to what they're saying, their goal is restoring the XIIIth, which hasn't really been part of the 6.X MSQ at all, as we're only saving Azdaja.

A sidequest in 6.5 or after would be nice, but you're acting as if they were MAJOR CRITICAL loose threads. They're not. They're pending side stories not really related to the Golbez arc at all.

Want an actual (though not terribly important) loose thread? Travanchet.

My head canon is that Gaius killed him at some point in ShB. We don't actually know.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

Just saying it's pretty silly to say "This has nothing to do with MSQ at all so nyeh!" when we already have a case of something not originally being relevant to MSQ being made not just relevant, but mandatory to the story in order to progress.

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Those aren't my Words "Exactly"
Basically Im not being jerk about it XD. But Again like I said, until they DO suddenly make it MSQ relevant in some way, just like Shadowbringers did to the Crystal Tower...to me its just Side content that doesn't effect the actual world or the MSQ. If they do later like ShB & CT.....neat. Not being facetious, it would legit be cool.
One of the things I do love about FFXIV is how some nonsense, or a minor plot point way back, does become relevant later. If the Same Happens to Void Ark, Im in.

But until then, for now its just Fun Side Content.

Regardless of whether or not previous loose threads were handled well, it really does feel like the void should have been given its own expansion so the concepts we've seen so far in 6.x could be expanded on further.

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Originally Posted by TheDecay

Why not give the same treatment to Cait Sith, Cyella, and Unukalhai? Why did we need Y'shtola to follow us into the Void again? What's the point of Zero? Imagine if Cyella replaced Zero, the story would've been 200% better.

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Congratulations on having an opinion! Other people are big fans of Zero, and find the introduction of that character 200% better than if they had done some plot gymnastics to get characters irrelevant to the storyline magically back in it just because they happen to be from a part of the 13th that has nothing to do with what we're doing now...

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Regardless of whether or not previous loose threads were handled well, it really does feel like the void should have been given its own expansion so the concepts we've seen so far in 6.x could be expanded on further.

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Just my own guess, but I feel like perhaps this would have been seen as too similar to having done that with the Light on the First in ShB. Could've become a "ShB was great because this was a novel idea; now it's just being rehashed with void instead and feels like a letdown."