Next FF MMO should be open-world.

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Originally Posted by tatatatatata

Now you're truly grasping at straws here.

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No I am not. You are ignoring that gatherers, hunts and FATEs exist.

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The aether currents are basically cover the region that you get led to through the MSQ

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The MSQ definitely has a solo battle with Haurchefant at Vundu OK' Bendu, which is just above the bottom right of the map. The beast tribe takes you to explore the Vanu's rivals in the Vundu territories in the middle of the map. As I previously mentioned, the Void Ark quests cover the north of the map and the dungeon quest covers the north east.

Just picking up today's Vanu quests shows exactly how used this territory is.
https://i.imgur.com/xPh3hYW.png

I agree with OP to an extent; the overworld needs more stuff to do in it. Activities/“life”. Even if it’s just NPCs moving around transporting stuff.

Guildwars 2 is fantastic at this with Mariokart style races, jumping puzzles, mini games etc that pop up similar to fates. They even have a few pilot-wings-esque courses you can do.

For all the “meh” in GW2 story/job balance, the actual world/physics were always a joy to goof around in.

I like arr, there's no story gates - if you want you can run out from ul dah through mor dhona, coerthas and north shroud to get to gridania. If you've got an fc house in the mists you can even explore la noscea all before turning in the second main quest if wanted. It'd be nice if the boats operated before that level 15 quest but I'm sure there was some reason for it.

I agree, I've always said this. It feels too "sterile".

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Originally Posted by kaynide

I agree with OP to an extent; the overworld needs more stuff to do in it. Activities/“life”. Even if it’s just NPCs moving around transporting stuff.

Guildwars 2 is fantastic at this with Mariokart style races, jumping puzzles, mini games etc that pop up similar to fates. They even have a few pilot-wings-esque courses you can do.

For all the “meh” in GW2 story/job balance, the actual world/physics were always a joy to goof around in.

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Since I've recently picked GW2 up again after 10 years it's still rather fresh in my mind. It's not just the activities on the map, it's their layout. Sure the core game has a lot of open fields but later on you get winding and narrow pathways with bottomless pits to the sides, maze-like jungles, lots of verticality, etc.

Another big difference is that the world is actually alive and dangerous. Where XIV's "open world" is basically just a cakewalk with enemies that auto attack 95% of the time, GW2's basic enemies are comparatively dangerous and can do a lot of the things that the player can. They dodge attacks, inflict debuffs like slow and stun, throw around aoe fields and some of them can kill you just as fast as you can kill them...or you stand in the wrong spot and get knocked off a cliff.

It makes exploring feel more like an adventure, besides the zones offering rewards you might want, since you can't just steamroll through the map.

It's a testament to the design that zones from 2015 are still alive with players to this day.

Gonna be honest: I'm kinda tired of Open World games. Everyone's like: "But you can do whatever you want" and what I want is to have a clear objective. Even in a game such as amazing as Elden Ring, by NG+ you're probably just running from major boss to major boss because what else are you gonna find? Some cave with a mini boss you'll one shot and give you a trash drop anyway. Same for BotW... exploration was really fun for a while, until you realize that at the end of every exploration journey all you'll find is yet another Shrine. And those are like two of the best modern examples of open world games. They have all these beautiful vistas and then you have to spend 5 days just getting anywhere back and forth over and over, and then there's like nothing to really find around other than crafting materials. I'm all up for removing loading zone lines, but please: Not another pointlessly gigantic open empty world...

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Gonna be honest: I'm kinda tired of Open World games. Everyone's like: "But you can do whatever you want" and what I want is to have a clear objective.

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I always wanted an Open World game until I actually played one.

My experience in that game was entirely different to my friend's. I didn't want to experience what I was experiencing. I wanted to experience what my friend was experiencing. FOMO was affecting me (fear of missing out). So I quit the game.

And that is why open world games don't work and why it has to be linear like in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I always wanted an Open World game until I actually played one.

My experience in that game was entirely different to my friend's. I didn't want to experience what I was experiencing. I wanted to experience what my friend was experiencing. FOMO was affecting me (fear of missing out). So I quit the game.

And that is why open world games don't work and why it has to be linear like in FFXIV.

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How do I downvote people?

It wasn't always super linear. This is why we have linear ass dungeons, and everything is on rails now. 'Cause of the crying babies.

Everyone cries about FOMO, when they should experience new stuff, because it's an MMO in a living virtual world. Not everything needs to be experienced the same way by every person.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Gonna be honest: I'm kinda tired of Open World games. Everyone's like: "But you can do whatever you want" and what I want is to have a clear objective.

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Congratulations, your objective now is to finish MSQ, then AFK in Limsa.

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Originally Posted by R041

Congratulations, your objective now is to finish MSQ, then AFK in Limsa.

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Why AFK in Limsa, instead of playing the game?
Your advising them to Not Play the game after MSQ, when they want something to motivate them to play the game, an Objective.
Why not suggest something that involves playing the game after MSQ?

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Why AFK in Limsa, instead of playing the game?
Your advising them to Not Play the game after MSQ, when they want something to motivate them to play the game, an Objective.
Why not suggest something that involves playing the game after MSQ?

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Choices? Decisions? In my MMO? Too open, we here at XIV only MSQ then AFK.