Astro Rework 7.0. My Spidey Sense Is Tingling.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I don't see AST getting any better in 7.0. Hell, I have a sneaking suspicion that they're going to try and "salvage" the toolkit by making it almost identical to WHM.
Minor Arcana completely gone
Lord of Crowns being turned into AST's version of Assize
Lady of Crowns becoming fuel for Astrodyne to mimic Lilies and Misery
and the rest of the cards are virtually untouched because they don't need to touch them.

I pray I'm wrong but given the current trend of nuking a job to make it the most basic it can possibly be, it just sounds plausible enough that I could see it happening.

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Like I said at that point, telling me AST as a class has been removed from the game sounds like better news. /shrugs We'll see when 7.0 rears its head.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I don't see AST getting any better in 7.0. Hell, I have a sneaking suspicion that they're going to try and "salvage" the toolkit by making it almost identical to WHM.
Minor Arcana completely gone
Lord of Crowns being turned into AST's version of Assize
Lady of Crowns becoming fuel for Astrodyne to mimic Lilies and Misery
and the rest of the cards are virtually untouched because they don't need to touch them.

I pray I'm wrong but given the current trend of nuking a job to make it the most basic it can possibly be, it just sounds plausible enough that I could see it happening.

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>Astrodyne Removed
>Seals Removed
>Redraw Removed
>Minor Arcana Removed
>Draw 1 charge every 60 seconds.
>Pressing draw immediately plays a random card of 6 possible cards.
>Cards are all functionally the same. Buffs no longer vary depending on who recieves it.
>Cards are a 30yalm point blank aoe granting each player within it a 1%DPS buff for 15s.
>Cards also deal both damage to all enemies for 150 potency and heal allies for 300 potency.
>Divination is untouched.
>Fall Malefic II

Cards changed to be group-wide instead of targeted, and the buff adjusted as necessary. GCD heal costs increased to compensate for AST's significantly greater MP economy than WHM, range of heals adjusted (seriously, the range of AST's heals is an actual problem in P8S, especially for HC and NA), Undraw deleted, Draw\Play combined into one action.

There's your rework.

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Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon

Cards changed to be group-wide instead of targeted, and the buff adjusted as necessary. GCD heal costs increased to compensate for AST's significantly greater MP economy than WHM, range of heals adjusted (seriously, the range of AST's heals is an actual problem in P8S, especially for HC and NA), Undraw deleted, Draw\Play combined into one action.

There's your rework.

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You had me until Undraw deleted. SE will sooner remove Neutral Sect before they remove Undraw.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

You had me until Undraw deleted. SE will sooner remove Neutral Sect before they remove Undraw.

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I would strangely be ok with that.

I hope they buff the card system..cuz it's rather weak ( the 6%) ...should be 10-15%

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Originally Posted by Zeastria

I hope they buff the card system..cuz it's rather weak ( the 6%) ...should be 10-15%

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That would make sense if it was solo buffs,, I don't see why you see that it is "rather weak" when it is in a party setting. If an astro is in a competent party, it isn't weak. If however the astro is in a party that doesn't require healing but people aren't putting out DPS (missing rotation, movement issues, etc) then it's a party issue and the astro's castrated DPS set can't make up for anything.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

So I been thinking long and hard about this Astro rework. First I thought okay it’s probably about the cards but what about the cards they couldn’t change and implement in 6.2?

Then they hit us with the rework is so big that it must wait until 7.0. That’s when it hit me. What if the next caster because we know we’re getting a caster for 7.0. It’s almost guaranteed at this point. What if Astro and this new caster are connected somehow and they need to rework Astro to part it from this new caster?

Now you all might be thinking I’m crazy and yeah you may be right but stay with me. What if they are giving Astro this summoner level rework to remove the rest of the time aspects from Astro to implement Time mage as the new caster.

Now Time mage has been a top contender for a job that people has been asking for but then it’s always said that Astro is part time mage so it will never happen. In Shadowbringers they removed most of the time aspects from Astro and we only have what lightspeed left and their benefic spells basically is them reversing time on injuries and their LB is time related.

Though I am still on the Geomancer craze as the new caster I’m not counting out Time mage just yet.

What do you guys think? Can SE pull this off? Do you think this could be the reason Astro is getting this extensive rework? Could Time mage, a popular wanted job finally be making its debut as the new caster in 7.0?

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i wouldn't mind this IF and emphasis on IF they actually go harder into the astrology and card aspect of AST

I would unironically enjoy the card system to not require targeting party members to apply its buffs. I'd rather have every card be different in its effect but be a point blank aoe, buffing everybody around you, than the current iteration where you have to fumble back and forth between targeting the enemy and scrolling down the party list.

At least on PC, I don't find it difficult to set up the HUD so that it is easy to apply a buff then switch back to your target of interest.

AOE buff that are all different and potentially subject to RNG could be rather frustrating, depending upon what buff effects are available, the party composition and the scenario , not to mention if no change is made to buff effects when soloing.