If PVP matchmaking is RNG, why are premade Parties still allowed in Fronlines?

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Originally Posted by RNGSatan

you give to much credit to 95% of playerbase who come to play FL just from duty roulette. those 4 with voice comms doing PVP daily and planned combos easily wrecks non PVP players who just do FL for EXP.

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The better players who dedicate themselves to playing the specific gamemode are better than the people who queue for it casually and don't care if they win. I wonder who would win in that scenario? It's not going to be balanced if you disallow for pre-mades since it will not only make the game worse, but it will not even solve the problem since people will just find loopholes around it. This isn't an issue other games have, so I don't know why it's a big deal here.

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Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp

Am still waiting for party-queue CC!

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Same dude, big same....

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Originally Posted by Astralrisk

The better players who dedicate themselves to playing the specific gamemode are better than the people who queue for it casually and don't care if they win. I wonder who would win in that scenario? It's not going to be balanced if you disallow for pre-mades since it will not only make the game worse, but it will not even solve the problem since people will just find loopholes around it. This isn't an issue other games have, so I don't know why it's a big deal here.

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if those dedicated players would be spread out properly across 3 teams ant not stacked in one team only, thats the issue. Matchmaking is not build around K/D or experience, its RNG, creating dedicated players group defeats the purpose of RNG matchmaking.

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Originally Posted by RNGSatan

if those dedicated players would be spread out properly across 3 teams ant not stacked in one team only, thats the issue. Matchmaking is not build around K/D or experience, its RNG, creating dedicated players group defeats the purpose of RNG matchmaking.

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Barring the fact that it is still heavily RNG based since you still have the rest of the 5/6th of the team that still need to function in order for the team to win. But if you remove the ability for those people to be in a premade group, you also remove everyone else's ability to be in a pre-made with their friends who just want to queue up for fun. Yes, you make it the most "fair and balanced" in an RNG based matchmaking system but then you still make the game that much less fun for literally everyone. And even then you still wouldn't solve the issue since people would just abuse the matchmaking queues to just get into the same game/team.

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Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp

Am still waiting for party-queue CC!

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I am also waiting for it!

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Originally Posted by Astralrisk

Barring the fact that it is still heavily RNG based since you still have the rest of the 5/6th of the team that still need to function in order for the team to win. But if you remove the ability for those people to be in a premade group, you also remove everyone else's ability to be in a pre-made with their friends who just want to queue up for fun. Yes, you make it the most "fair and balanced" in an RNG based matchmaking system but then you still make the game that much less fun for literally everyone. And even then you still wouldn't solve the issue since people would just abuse the matchmaking queues to just get into the same game/team.

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well as it stands now with stacking only small group of stacks gets to have fun, rest just gets steamrolled for the fun of that VIP dedicated group.

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Originally Posted by RNGSatan

well as it stands now with stacking only small group of stacks gets to have fun, rest just gets steamrolled for the fun of that VIP dedicated group.

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EU Frontline has different eco system but 4 men premade never has significant impact on the outcome of a match on Aether and Primal.
One of the factor is Crystal is relatively new compares to Aether and Primal where we have better established PvP community.
Also, 4 men premade group do not have significant dominance in Secure, Shattered, and Seal Rock.
For above 3 modes it is quite easy to neutralize 4 men premade's impact
It is illogical to change system just for Crystal when Elemental, Gaia, Mana, Aether, and Primal do not have this issue.
Crystal need more time to develop its PvP community and you just need to be patient

"If PVP matchmaking is RNG, why are premade Parties still allowed in Fronlines?"

Because it doesn't have to be a black-or-white system. It doesn't have to be exclusively RNG-only or full-teams-only for a system to exist.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

EU Frontline has different eco system but 4 men premade never has significant impact on the outcome of a match on Aether and Primal.
One of the factor is Crystal is relatively new compares to Aether and Primal where we have better established PvP community.
Also, 4 men premade group do not have significant dominance in Secure, Shattered, and Seal Rock.
For above 3 modes it is quite easy to neutralize 4 men premade's impact
It is illogical to change system just for Crystal when Elemental, Gaia, Mana, Aether, and Primal do not have this issue.
Crystal need more time to develop its PvP community and you just need to be patient

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I play on Chaos and impact is instantly felt when dedicated PVP premade enters the match no difference on which the map.

Premades should die.

Oh give me a god damn break. They already took away 8-man parties when all they had to do was add forced freelancer and get rid of 24-man games. Now you want 4-man parties gone lmfao.

It's an MMO. People want to play with their friends, not the masses of dullards who didn't care to set their hotbar and are only queuing for EXP. You really act like there's a "thrill of equal competition". Buddy, there is no competition in FL or RW for the reason described above. Let people play with their friends.