Criterion savage, only for i625-i630?

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Originally Posted by Chooty

Maybe not 630, but I disagree with people thinking it will be 610. Yoshida mentioned during the last live letter that the savage difficulty is aimed at people who have good gear from clearing the savage raid tier early on.

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I'm guessing 620 then.

And then ... surprise ! No ilvl required, fixed stats, no pots allowed and lv synced to 90 so everyone from level 1 to 90 can do it.

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Do you have an example where ex/savage is same ilvl requirements?

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Delubrum Reginae is 430 for both difficulties and the closest match to this content. I think it might even come with a level sync as those did, otherwise it gets too easy when the next set of gear comes out.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Delubrum Reginae is 430 for both difficulties and the closest match to this content. I think it might even come with a level sync as those did, otherwise it gets too easy when the next set of gear comes out.

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Bozja is not a particularly relevant example, because in Bozjan content—including Delubrum—your stats are based just on having something in a gear slot; you can use a level 5 weapon and it will function the same as a level 80 one. The only stats on gear that matter are the Bozja-specific stats on certain sets. A better comparison would be Storm's Crown EX (minimum ilevel i600) and P5S (minimum ilevel i600).

Folks have claimed i620 before for the Criterion dungeon's Savage variant, and while I don't remember seeing that confirmed anywhere, I can see that as a reasonable ilevel; i620 gear is obtainable via just tomestones. The only place I see it as a 'maybe not' is that you cannot have two Lunar Emissary rings (due to their being flagged Unique), and there's no other i620+ accessory option available outside of savage at present. Which means you'd have to do savage to get an Abyssos ring (in P5S), or a Coating (in P6S) to augment your first Lunar Emissary one, or you'd have to wait until 6.3 lands and you can use the alliance raid upgrade tokens to upgrade the first Lunar Emissary ring and get a second (unaugmented one).

That's the reason I'd hope for i615—current crafted gear plus at least some tomestone gear—to make it accessible immediately without requiring savage. But even straight i620 doesn't require savage, if you're willing to wait until 6.3 (and the second alliance raid) for an upgrade token to resolve that last accessory slot.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

Delubrum Reginae is 430 for both difficulties and the closest match to this content. I think it might even come with a level sync as those did, otherwise it gets too easy when the next set of gear comes out.

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from what we saw in LL, criterion savage is synced at i635 (no min ilvl), like ultimates (i605 synced for dsr, no min ilvl)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...001_190513.jpg

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

from what we saw in LL, criterion savage is synced at i635 (no min ilvl), like ultimates (i605 synced for dsr, no min ilvl)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...001_190513.jpg

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So why post this thread and then come back with the answer?

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

So why post this thread and then come back with the answer?

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synced at 635 (without min ilvl) doens't necessarily mean "only doable with i630"

In that picture, Yoshi-P is only item level 618. It says he can't enter because it's for 4 people. It does not say he can't enter because of item level.

If you can't enter content because of item level, it actually says and specifies the item level you require, which we would be able to see in English. Try unequipping everything and looking at raids and dungeons and you will see.

still working on my main sets ranged is currenty at 615 still building with 620 gear and using 610 as temp gear shooting for full 620 set on ranged jobs

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

In that picture, Yoshi-P is only item level 618. It says he can't enter because it's for 4 people. It does not say he can't enter because of item level.

If you can't enter content because of item level, it actually says and specifies the item level you require, which we would be able to see in English. Try unequipping everything and looking at raids and dungeons and you will see.

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You can also enter DSR with i580