Suggestion: Housing stays as is, but add full housing to Sanctuary Islands too

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Originally Posted by Altherael

Added a bit to the Sanctuary Islands section:

Customization of what you want the island to look like, aka, like Lavender Hills, Mist, Shirogane, etc.

Plus the option to not have robots/machines/factories but more natural or magical choices instead.
I myself am not a fan of factories etc, I highly prefer natural and magical.

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Just to clarify, it's not "robots and factories". All the buildings on the islands are mainly wood with accents made of various plant fiber and metal. Think Swiss Family Robinson if you've ever seen any of the TV shows or movies based on the book. The "factory" would be an open air workshop made mostly from wood like the other buildings. There are mammets of a more practical design than the ones you see standing around the Goldsmith's Guild in Ul'dah. Mammets are partly magical in nature so they're good on that point of your request.

Considering you said you haven't been to the island yet in your later post, I find it strange that you're coming up with a list of what it should be when you don't know what it is. It would be better if you unlocked your island first (or at least visited the island of a friend/FC member) to see it. Some suggestions just aren't possible, like allowing players to customize the climate theme.

What do you expect this game to actually want to do something rational?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Just to clarify, it's not "robots and factories". All the buildings on the islands are mainly wood with accents made of various plant fiber and metal. Think Swiss Family Robinson if you've ever seen any of the TV shows or movies based on the book. The "factory" would be an open air workshop made mostly from wood like the other buildings. There are mammets of a more practical design than the ones you see standing around the Goldsmith's Guild in Ul'dah. Mammets are partly magical in nature so they're good on that point of your request.

Considering you said you haven't been to the island yet in your later post, I find it strange that you're coming up with a list of what it should be when you don't know what it is. It would be better if you unlocked your island first (or at least visited the island of a friend/FC member) to see it. Some suggestions just aren't possible, like allowing players to customize the climate theme.

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I will have to see that myself yet, things Island are just what I heard, so it's not strange, I was just thinking up some ideas for those that did.

Mainly this thread of mine is just about housing, I do wonder though, if every player can get a whole island, in my views it would not be difficult to have given everyone a plot and full housing instead.
I agree with people that getting a house is more impossible than for example running into a pink elephant, and rather depressing having to go to the sign and having lost yet another lottery, and another, and another, and another, and before that clicking house signs.

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Originally Posted by Altherael

Hello all!

As we all know there is a mass shortage for housing

This idea will solve that problem and keep everyone happy.

2. Keep the Wards as they are

2. Wards, the neighbourhoods you know and are there to stay.

The wards will be staying as they are

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I fully agree with these points OP!

From today's live letter

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Yoshi: "We are trying to allow players to place garden housing items on their island, we don't have a release schedule for this feature yet, but we are trying"

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Originally Posted by Shibi

From today's live letter

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Just to clarify for those who aren't aware, the yards of our houses are referred to as the "garden" in Japanese. That means outdoor furnishings in general are what they are trying to add. We can't be certain if the garden patches will be included in this and work for crossbreeding until they give us more information.

I appreciate the desire to just info dump a wishlist for new housing features, but it seems extremely likely that housing options will come into play for Island Sanctuary. That said, to implement something like this would be a HUGE undertaking and the team is only so large. Give them time, I'm sure they're working on it.

But yeah, since we're doing wishlists, I think Island Sanctuary housing should just be simple and people should understand what they're getting, which is a limited, more constrained housing option, should one come around. It's already subtly implied that this is going to be considered and the idea of simple housing that requires cowries and workshop crafting (instead of player crafting or MB purchases) should be treated as a best case scenario.

Anything else, like themes (don't forget this is an island) and additional social features might be a bridge too far. Also, there is no bridge back to Moraby so clearly you gotta make use of what's on the island and that might mean coconut dinnerware and palm frond carpets for the overwhelming majority of folks.

I would prefer instanced housing as well. But I doubt it will ever happen due to difficult housing being key to keep players paying subscription during content draughts.

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Originally Posted by rxantos

I would prefer instanced housing as well. But I doubt it will ever happen due to difficult housing being key to keep players paying subscription during content draughts.

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One month subbed. Enter house on first and last days of subscription (and any time between). Six weeks unsubbed. Repeat.

You keep your house. That's only 40% of the year you have to be subscribed. If you're playing less than 40% of the year, you should be questioning why you need to own a house in a game you rarely play.

Not to mention that demolition is still suspended and probably will continue to be suspended until the new EU and NA worlds fill up so there's zero need to be subscribed right now.

So much for the "they're greedy for subscription dollars" theory. If they were doing just to force players to stay subscribed, there would be more houses (though still not quite enough) to force even more subscription retention and there would be no suspension of demolition.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

One month subbed. Enter house on first and last days of subscription (and any time between). Six weeks unsubbed. Repeat.

You keep your house. That's only 40% of the year you have to be subscribed. If you're playing less than 40% of the year, you should be questioning why you need to own a house in a game you rarely play.

Not to mention that demolition is still suspended and probably will continue to be suspended until the new EU and NA worlds fill up so there's zero need to be subscribed right now.

So much for the "they're greedy for subscription dollars" theory. If they were doing just to force players to stay subscribed, there would be more houses (though still not quite enough) to force even more subscription retention and there would be no suspension of demolition.

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Yeah on that you and I can agree. I've never subscribed to the conspiracy theory of 'they want us to stay subbed and that's why we have demolition'. It was a stopgap effort instituted when they didn't have the resources (and couldn't get them quickly) to handle the demand for housing. It wasn't part of their vision for housing. If they can manage to actually meet demand somehow, something tells me auto demo will either be drastically changed (i.e. people unsubbed for six months to a year) or simply done away with all together.