Having run it several times, my most disliked part of the MSQ is:

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Originally Posted by Iscah

On the contrary, I think Laurentius was genuinely trying to turn over a new leaf, and instead we walked him straight into the worst possible group of people we could put him with. Manipulative with a veneer of good intentions.

So I feel massively guilty for recruiting him, and then there's Wilred. :(

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Sharp take. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

We don't see him again after Baelsar's Wall, but we do hear that he and Yuyuhase are apprehended, and Raubahn asks our opinion on whether they deserve death or mercy. From memory that was still only as a precursor to them getting a proper trial, though, so as far as we're aware they might still be awaiting sentence. It's a plot thread they could pick up when they want to.

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I think there was another brief mention earlier of a suspicious Hyur and Lalafell spotted around the Peaks, but we don't actually see them there either.

Raubahn agrees if you say they're too dangerous to live, or comments that you're more merciful than he is if you opt against it, but either way promises that he'll tell your opinion at the trial. So one way or another, their story is probably over.

No the guy dragged me around the Shroud playing victim the whole time. Dude betrayed hearth and home cause he felt he wasn't getting paid enough. Crystal Braves was the last chance for him from me. I don't regret telling Raubahn that they should hang. Sure he might have some how finally realized what selling out people that don't deserve it gets you right before he hit that button. But the guy still hit the damn thing. He might have won some points if he had turned himself in, but he didn't.

The only person who I feel bad getting recruited is that boy who we stopped from summoning one of the twelve as he really was trying to do better.

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Originally Posted by SannaR

No the guy dragged me around the Shroud playing victim the whole time. Dude betrayed hearth and home cause he felt he wasn't getting paid enough. Crystal Braves was the last chance for him from me. I don't regret telling Raubahn that they should hang. Sure he might have some how finally realized what selling out people that don't deserve it gets you right before he hit that button. But the guy still hit the damn thing. He might have won some points if he had turned himself in, but he didn't.

The only person who I feel bad getting recruited is that boy who we stopped from summoning one of the twelve as he really was trying to do better.

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Yeah that guy's was one of the few among the selected whom genuinely went out of his way to be better and to fix his own errors. But he was cut down before he could fulfill them.

I'm glad we at least got a really nice closure quest chain where we bring him home to a freed Ala Mhigo

I feel like some of Laurentius' characterization was lost when they condensed the related quests in the ARR revamp. The old way of having to chase him around, watch what he was doing and listening to him talk to himself spoke volumes compared to the abbreviated version we now get.

He was both opportunist and coward. That led to him being easily manipulated because he wanted to get rich with little to no effort and risk.

I do believe that murder wasn't his style but he was already in too deep by Baelsar's Wall and not doing it would have meant his own death, probably at Yuyuhase's hands.

Rewatching the scene on the Wall, Laurentius is clearly hesitating. He didn't really want to resort to the massacre, but he got in too deep, and he chose to kill everyone else rather than answer to Yuyuhase and Ilberd about it later. And looking at Yuyuhase's smug smirk, he knows it, too.

Yuyuhase, on the other hand, has been upfront all along about only being in it for the money. I kinda wonder how he got talked into the final plot. Was he paid up front but couldn't get out and away before the Alliance moved in, then got caught between them, the Resistance, and the Empire with nowhere to go? Were the two of them not told about Ilberd's death being part of the plan and just had to leg it without a further plan? We'll probably never know for sure.