Lost all enjoyment with Crystalline Conflict

Try another job, take a minute and look at your total wins, take a break and play something else for a while. I get bent out of shape about bad matches but when I look at overall wins, I've improved each season. You might just need perspective.

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Originally Posted by Lorianah

To be honest with you - I didn't take the winrate seriously until this season and I've been banging my head against this gold rank. It didn't feel anything like this during season 1. The odd game that I actually get into a gold/plat split (as opposed to the only gold amongst a bunch of bronze and unranked) - I really enjoy - it's the team fights, people being aware of whats going on, priority targets etc. I don't even care if I'm winning or losing. The games are fun.

The bit that's taking it away is the fact that when you're put in groups of people who clearly don't have a clue. I don't claim to be amazing and I only stated the fact I got to crystal in prior seasons to illustrate that I have at least some understanding of how to play. But, I just think it's crazy that people are being put in groups with people essentially 3 ranking brackets below?

I'm definitely going to try the advice of yourself and yaba_gabagool to try a different job and see how that goes.

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I wouldn't take the win rate too seriously. There's a reason why they took that out. Regardless, you're better off on working on survival and putting out the dps numbers while you actually have a full team. With the star system being the way it is I have to assume that majority, if not everyone, is climbing with a negative win rate. Obviously not true, but I'm using that logic not to get so upset over losing.

I think matchmaking is currently like this since it's not possible to get demoted out of platinum. I think it was SE's solution of trying not to kill off the lower queues. Regardless. I don't believe in gold being thrown into bronze rooms. I don't believe in silvers being thrown into platinum rooms.

Regardless, it's obvious that this season is going to require a ton a patience from everyone. Hopefully you'll decide to push into platinum. I'm pretty certain that you'll enjoy your games once you make it there :)

I'm also 99% sure that the game contains a hidden MMR, because being on a win streak in plat gets you vastly differently ranked teammates than being on a losing streak in plat gets you.

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Originally Posted by Corbeau

I'm also 99% sure that the game contains a hidden MMR, because being on a win streak in plat gets you vastly differently ranked teammates than being on a losing streak in plat gets you.

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Oh for sure. Being Plat 1 and one win away from Diamond puts you in an entire Crystal lobby, it's quite interesting lol

It's kind of hilarious watching former crystal rank players complain about the rank system now when it's been stacked against me from day 1.

I'm on the same page as the OP.

On my datacenter, after 2 games in gold, you can determine the winner just by looking at the team members. You always have a team playing 4vs5 due to someone being totally lost (and being in bronze). I'm not trying to blame them, not at all, the matchmaking put them there. That's the lottery, and you can't really, on most jobs, compensate for 1 person doing almost nothing but dying over and over. And after 10 games in a row like this, you just give up. When you reach gold, you really have the right to expect a bit more balanced games, which barely happens. That's just not fun the way it is right now.

Ranked games should no longer give XP, incentive should be made on unranked matches (more XP for example) for everyone to enjoy the learning in a fairer environment and the matchmaking should be tweaked to no longer match players with such a high difference in ranking. The PvP is already plagued with a lot of issues, SE should wake up and alleviate the ones above, which is supposedly rather easy, before too many problems stack on each other and turn players away from CC (which is maybe already the case).

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Originally Posted by Stoi

I'm on the same page as the OP.

On my datacenter, after 2 games in gold, you can determine the winner just by looking at the team members. You always have a team playing 4vs5 due to someone being totally lost (and being in bronze). I'm not trying to blame them, not at all, the matchmaking put them there. That's the lottery, and you can't really, on most jobs, compensate for 1 person doing almost nothing but dying over and over. And after 10 games in a row like this, you just give up. When you reach gold, you really have the right to expect a bit more balanced games, which barely happens. That's just not fun the way it is right now.

Ranked games should no longer give XP, incentive should be made on unranked matches (more XP for example) for everyone to enjoy the learning in a fairer environment and the matchmaking should be tweaked to no longer match players with such a high difference in ranking. The PvP is already plagued with a lot of issues, SE should wake up and alleviate the ones above, which is supposedly rather easy, before too many problems stack on each other and turn players away from CC (which is maybe already the case).

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This is the exact sentiment much better put I was trying to get at. Thank you for being more eloquent than me :)

It's by no means the players fault. The matchmaking is just....weird... I don't think there is an easy solution to it but I do think the levelling aspect does make the problem worse than it would otherwise be.

I'll try to be as constructive as possible instead of the "git gud" advice that helps nobody honestly.

If you're struggling to climb the ranks, you may want to focus on playing a single map and stick with it. In my case, I really like the volcano map.

While I'm not a MCH player, I believe MCH is very strong on C9 map, but that map is cursed IMO.

To me, I've found out that the best way to climb is to play a few matches per day, like 5 matches, whether won or lost and of course on a map that I'm comfortable with. It's also essential to know all the jobs abilities.

For example, I know that MNK is vulnerable when executing their LB, I can't count how many times I've killed monks during their LB animation, the same goes with BLM.

This may sound funny, but I've noticed when calls are being given, whether by me or someone else, the match will usually end up in defeat, I don't know why?
I've noticed this and tried to counter it by trying to focus and adapt during the chaos of combat, believe in your teammates, and you do you, play the best you can, and when you do, your impact will be visible to everyone.


What I'm telling you here is based on my experience during the current season.



https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...221424_907.png

If you think it's bad having bronze on the team with you, picture how the bronze players feel when they find out the other team is ALL GOLD.

It's just bad all around.

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Originally Posted by Lorianah

Why be so toxic for someone sharing feedback and experience? Why instead of being nasty not share something constructive? Is this not the place to share feedback in the hope it's heard?

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because thats what they do.