3% HP nerf, what a giant slap in the dev's face

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Originally Posted by VictorSpoils

Shoulda nerfed Sephirot instead dangit.

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It kinda feels like they did, they just didn't mention it.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

Careful, those goalposts are heavy. Imagine still fronting when proven wrong

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Not really, I admitted my numbers were wrong and said, I took those from another discussion I saw a while back, but your article says something different.

But, that also doesn't mean my point was entirely wrong. 30% clearing high-end content at end game isn't a huge amount of the player base and they certainly aren't all high end raiders who concern themselves with this stuff. Also 20% vs 30% isn't a huge difference, at least, not enough to get noses bent out of shape over it.

And I doubt even 5% of that 30% even clears in the first week let alone the first month. The majority of people raiding take most of the tier to clear everything. So ya my original comment stands. This crying over the HP nerf is literally nothing. They admitted they overturned it and it only effected the ost hard core groups.

Mr. FireMage can pretend all he wants that raiding is super popular, but the reality is its pretty niche content, especially in ffxiv where the large majority of the player base doesn't really care about raids.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

You didn't need any numbers for them to "basically admit" that they made a mistake in playtesting P8S. They literally explained this in the patch notes that were made available shortly after the start of last night's maintenance.

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What they admitted to is 1%. So why they nerf 3% instead? Makes you think.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

And I doubt even 5% of that 30% even clears in the first week let alone the first month. The majority of people raiding take most of the tier to clear everything. So ya my original comment stands. This crying over the HP nerf is literally nothing. They admitted they overturned it and it only effected the ost hard core groups.

Mr. FireMage can pretend all he wants that raiding is super popular, but the reality is its pretty niche content, especially in ffxiv where the large majority of the player base doesn't really care about raids.

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>Niche content

>Half the player base does it

Pick one. Can't have both

How can you say 3%, when they say 1%?

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Originally Posted by Keichi

How can you say 3%, when they say 1%?

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Because thats what they did. Have you even entered the fight after the update? You should go see for yourself and tell me it is 3% or 1%.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

This seriously isn't that big of a deal....They overtuned it and fixed it. Ya'll need to calm down on this whole thing, especially when its only the 1% of the 1% that this even applies to. Most people wont see this fight for weeks.

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This is always such a disingenuous take. Poor job balance impacts the casual to midcore range significantly more than the 1%. PF is the wild west, dealing with general inconsistencies of players and varying skill levels. Only allowing specific jobs who are dwarfing their counterparts helps to mitigate this. Think about it, if a subpar Black Mage can rival a top tier Red Mage. Why wouldn't you want to lock the Caster spot to Black Mage? After all, you have a far higher chance of getting a subpar player while potentially lucking into someone better. It's only ever a benefit when the damage discrepancy is this bad. Hence why PF was locking Warrior and Paladin out of P8. They simply offer nothing Dark Knight and Gunbreaker don't do better even if the latter two are only average players.

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Originally Posted by FireMage

>Niche content

>Half the player base does it

Pick one. Can't have both

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30% isn't half of the player base.

well this topic is going nowhere really fast time to leave and let it burn/