Job winrates per region

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

I mean, over on the healer forums:

SCH is worst PvP healer

And then you had a few people understood just how good it is for the reasons you state.

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Yup. A lot of forum dwellers are layman PvPers that come here to vent. They usually lack understanding and will often parrot popular opinions due to that selfsame reason.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

I disagree with the LB assessment. IMHO Seraph is one of the worst limit breaks because of the clunkiness of it. It's stationary and slow to activate.

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As you said, Seraph definitely needs to activate faster. It would be nice if she could also be moved once like SGE's LB.

Honestly though, I forgot how fast SCH's LB charges which would change my opinion if it's more than 90s. So I'm sorry if I was talking out my ass on this one, but it does feel strong to me when when I watch Roy Razorwind's streams. I need more hands-on experience for sure.

This is interesting. So basically….even though not many play SCH and I’m a SCH main. It’s the win rate that make SE said, “nah, we don’t need to buff the class.” It’s just either ppl who play the class who are extremely good at it or the stigma made it where only the rare players play it and have the most wins.

I know ppl are saying now that SCH is a great healer class, but not adding in a fact that you also have to consider that there are more than 1 way to create a high win rate. The reason why the other healers have low win rate because they are the most used classes within the 2 seasons. Just because SCH has a high win rate, that doesn’t mean it’s the most used. It’s the LESS USED CLASS IN THE GAME. That can also contribute a high win rate.

…………….you know what. 4D chess play for the PvP team. What better way to get a legit win rate for SCH than to make the community believe that SCH is the top tier. To get them to play the job for next season and then….THEN we’ll get the actual win rate cause I know and they know. The majority of players play WHM, AST, and SGE. They can’t find find a reason if no one is going to play it as much as the other healer jobs.

You'd think with how much people cry about chainsaw, MCH would at least be above 50% winrate lol.

Not like balance matters as much as design as a whole, either way. I, as a monk player, willingly admit being able to pretty reliably hit someone for 48k on a min CD, with 3 sec CC and guard break, is honestly not great design, and there are a few other bursts in this game where I am not happy with where they are at. To some extent all jobs need something really busted about them that feel really powerful an amazing and unique, so I wouldn't want them to get rid of everything just because it makes people mad. It's a case-by-case kind of thing.

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Originally Posted by Llynethil

You'd think with how much people cry about chainsaw, MCH would at least be above 50% winrate lol.

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Excellent example of "Negativity Bias" at play.

They could just be making the numbers up to try and get players to think things are balanced when they are not.

..........Hmm, the more I think about it. The DPS % rate seems fair. 48-52% seems a balanced outcome as many ppl play those roles altogether. The Tank and Healer % seems out of balance. I say going above 53% is out of whack. Either it's being played the most, getting the most wins or playing the least, but getting just enough wins to not play them again only to manipulate the % rate. Again for fairness it's between 48-52% for the role of that field of Tank, Healer, DPS. So in the end PLD, somewhat DRK and definitely SCH will have to be adjusted to lower it's rate below 53% to achieve fairness.

Considering how bad the 0 rating Crystals are in this game, they might need to look at top 100 or something for Job balance.