The Men FFXIV Needs

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Originally Posted by Jagick

I remember really looking forward to making a more gruff male Viera when they came out, only to find that I was limited to about four different flavors of J-pop looking jailbait. Heroes in eastern media almost always tend to be younger, slender, or severely dehydrated shonen type characters. That's all well and good but some variety would be nice!

Then again I'm spoiled by Aion's character creator. You had sliders with numbers for almost everything. I'm not expecting black desert online tier customization but I'm sure everyone would enjoy not being a clone of roughly 1 out of every 4 or 5 other people.

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Same. I was very disappointed with the finished product. Even on the height thing, they could've compromised by being more creative with the height slider, in a similar way to the femroe one, by having it go quite high and low, say between the range of a male midlander min and just below male elezen max. By all accounts they seem to have been committed to using that body type, but more rugged facial options, like the sort miqo'te get, with better facial hair options, coupled with what I mentioned about the height slider, would've gone a long way for me.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

Same. I was very disappointed with the finished product. Even on the height thing, they could've compromised by being more creative with the height slider, in a similar way to the femroe one, by having it go quite high and low. By all accounts they seem to have been committed to using that body type, but more rugged facial options, like the sort miqo'te get, with better facial hair options, coupled with what I mentioned about the height slider, would've gone a long way for me.

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Most definitely. There really wasn't a single more aged, or masculine face option in-game for male viera. SE definitely compromised on the look, since they were apparently still "too tall" for many, but still really not enough towards the more masculine end. Like, they could have done one face at least, right? Plus it was like they all had permanent makeup on, if I recall.

Jack Garland.
'' Grounded ''?

xD...
He's a pretty funny example tbh because he's a walking meme.

I sorta agree in the sense that more customization = good.
I mean I'd like more body customization too, for example I'd like Femroes to have hips and I'd like stuff like muscle tone slider on Elezen.

I really don't think that the Billboard '' scandal '' did anything at all tho.
Most people just laughed at it and those who were '' turned off by it '' I don't think had any interest in FFXIV to begin with.
The reason why with WoW for example I think their scandals have turned people away is because of the shere amount and seriousness of them, the billboard thing was just a funny meme.
Even one serious scandal isn't nearly enough to do actual damage it needs to reach a pretty bad repeated level for it to have any real effect.

In all honesty I think the existence of races like Lalafell does more to turn some people away than any billboard ever would.
Not saying that as a jab at Lalafell but in the grand scheme of things I think 99% of people just laughed at it while 1% of people who had already made their minds up just felt like their view was reinforced.
( Which is really dumb, to judge a game based on a player ingame event that no one has to attend to begin with. Not to mention some streamers did as a meme and actually had a lot of fun, Xenosys of all people for example did ).

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Originally Posted by Jagick

I remember really looking forward to making a more gruff male Viera when they came out, only to find that I was limited to about four different flavors of J-pop looking jailbait. Heroes in eastern media almost always tend to be younger, slender, or severely dehydrated shonen type characters. That's all well and good but some variety would be nice!

Then again I'm spoiled by Aion's character creator. You had sliders with numbers for almost everything. I'm not expecting black desert online tier customization but I'm sure everyone would enjoy not being a clone of roughly 1 out of every 4 or 5 other people.

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There was quite a lot of demand for making Male Viera smaller than Female Viera and more effeminate.
It seem'd to be what most people asked for.

I dunno tho there's similar demand from some people that Female Hrothgar needs to be bigger than Male Hrothgar I just think it's silly.
Some people are just obsessed with '' breaking gender norms '' a bit too much imo.
Most important thing to me is that they look good and preferably have options.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

In all honesty I think the existence of races like Lalafell does more to turn some people away than any billboard ever would.
Not saying that as a jab at Lalafell but in the grand scheme of things I think 99% of people just laughed at it while 1% of people who had already made their minds up just felt like their view was reinforced.

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I don't really know what relevance the billboard has here, but I will say I have a pretty good idea what turns a lot of players away, or stops many from trying. At least in the west. It's the aesthetic. Lalafell is more of a meme within the community, from outside of the community, I will see more disdain for miqo'te or "catgirls" actually. People call this a "weeb" game, etc. etc. So this thread has a lot of merits, in that a lot of players, and potential players, in the west, do want more handsome, masculine options for the game. They also want armor more in the style of WoW, or I should rephrase: bulky, "cool", etc..

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

You DO remember that we DO indeed have massive graphic updates coming? They will be implemented over time, and that those were previewed in a Live Letter?

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/p4Am...934/ff14.0.png



Patience.

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The right side one still looks like from 2010 or before if we are to be honest

go realistic and place more of the men and women that sit behind the monitor playing the game.

Got my vote to.

This seems a good opportunity to pitch my soul race.

They'd be all glowy like energy and instead of skin color you could change the energy color like standard glow white soul or black, purple, green and a lot of other colors.

Plus the hair would be all energy looking, they'd be a mix of the current hair choices but in a glowy soul form.

They'd have both Male & Female soul form which is pretty much shape of a male body and female body, plus they'd be small like lalas so we have another small race to choose.

Jack is probably the most generic FF character in the history of the franchise. And that says a lot. That aside, I'd love more options. They can never go wrong with having more options.

Honestly I am surprised out of all the upgrades they have done with the graphics and UI elements that we did not get a character customization overhaul in 6.0

However if we do not get something during this expansion then we are expecting it in 7.0

Completly agree with you on that one !