Advice for a new Warrior and Materia?

This is all very well informative! I haven’t ever tried Tanking before (I’ve never invested in an MMO as much as I have with FF14), partly because I play on my PS4, which can make it somewhat hard to target that one annoying enemy that decides to target the Healer instead of the Tank. Thankfully an AoE attack fixes that.


But back on topic, even though Tenacity sounds like it is more valuable, the invisible stats for it say otherwise. In truth it almost sounds useless. Sure, I do wish enemies do less damage to me since they sometimes do a ton on me, but that could be a number of things outside of my gear. I just also never expected to spec my Warrior Tank how I would my DPS classes.

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Originally Posted by Absurdity

If you have all tanks then you unfortunately need to decide which to prioritize. Do you want the better melds for GnB, PLD and DrK or the better melds for Warrior?
Because all other tanks need a certain amount of skill speed to make their rotations align properly and then go for Crit -> Direct Hit -> Determination -> Tenacity.

Direct Hit and Determination are very close in terms of how much dps you gain from them on paper, the reason Direct Hit is usually valued higher on all tanks except warrior is that it doesn't exist on tank gear naturally and going from 0% chance to get an extra 25% damage to currently roughly 13% chance is preferable to a few flat % more damage.




As Mikey said however, if you're just doing casual content and don't care all that much about your dps then it really doesn't matter. What I would keep in mind for the future is that Critical Hit is by far the most valuable substat (outside of necessary skill speed to make your rotation work) because it increases both your Critical Hit chance and your Critical Damage modifier.

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Honestly it sounds like to me that you’re better off speccing the gear to be for Gunbreaker, Dark Knight, and Paladin, since doing so would make three jobs be at their top potential, while Warrior would still be good overall. It would pretty much be if you want three jobs to be at their best versus only one.

Anyone else wish we can get multiple copies of the special gear? So we wouldn’t have to worry about replacing Materia? Or better yet let us have Materia set for certain jobs instead of stuck on the gear so we don’t have to worry about it affecting all the jobs the gear can be used for!

Please forgive me for asking this n00b question here: When it gets to melding I often see statements like "Crit -> Direct Hit -> Determination -> Tenacity". I'm not sure how to interpret this.
Does this mean: Meld as much Crit as you can, then meld as much DH as you can, then Det, then Ten?
Or is this related to the final stats like: Crit stat should be higher than DH, which should be higher than Det etc.?
Sometimes the gear itself seems to make the latter impossible. With my full equipped Rinascita gear (have only one Radiant's Ring, which is melded with +48 Crit, but everything else isn't melded yet) the stats are: 1673 Crit, 1612 Det, 861 Ten and only 400 DH. How in the world would I get DH up, so it exceeds Det?

[edit] Above is for my PLD. My warrior is only lvl56 now. One of the points is: at lvl56 you can remove materia without losing it. But on lvl90 you can't just swap materia. Which is the reason I didn't meld anything yet in that lvl90 gear.

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Originally Posted by Qujah

Please forgive me for asking this n00b question here: When it gets to melding I often see statements like "Crit -> Direct Hit -> Determination -> Tenacity". I'm not sure how to interpret this.
Does this mean: Meld as much Crit as you can, then meld as much DH as you can, then Det, then Ten?
Or is this related to the final stats like: Crit stat should be higher than DH, which should be higher than Det etc.?
Sometimes the gear itself seems to make the latter impossible. With my full equipped Rinascita gear (have only one Radiant's Ring, which is melded with +48 Crit, but everything else isn't melded yet) the stats are: 1673 Crit, 1612 Det, 861 Ten and only 400 DH. How in the world would I get DH up, so it exceeds Det?

[edit] Above is for my PLD. My warrior is only lvl56 now. One of the points is: at lvl56 you can remove materia without losing it. But on lvl90 you can't just swap materia. Which is the reason I didn't meld anything yet in that lvl90 gear.

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That's your melding priority. As much crit as possible, then direct hit if you can't fit crit in. Det is okay if you for some reason can't do either, tenacity should be avoided in ALL cases.

It's literally just crit if you can then direct hit which you always can since it doesn't exist on tank gear. Dunno why but the raid designers only care about testing your dps and nothing else so every tiny drop you can get counts
Used to need skill speed depending on ping but that's not such a big deal anymore

One thing you can do is the cheap augmented sets you can get with poetics at 60/70/80 can deck them out in nothing but tenacity since the materia for it are basically considered garbage and really cheap. They last you the whole 10 level quite easily and the ungodly amount of tenacity makes up for the terrible healers your likely to be paired with and then some

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Originally Posted by Qujah

Please forgive me for asking this n00b question here: When it gets to melding I often see statements like "Crit -> Direct Hit -> Determination -> Tenacity". I'm not sure how to interpret this.
Does this mean: Meld as much Crit as you can, then meld as much DH as you can, then Det, then Ten?
Or is this related to the final stats like: Crit stat should be higher than DH, which should be higher than Det etc.?
Sometimes the gear itself seems to make the latter impossible. With my full equipped Rinascita gear (have only one Radiant's Ring, which is melded with +48 Crit, but everything else isn't melded yet) the stats are: 1673 Crit, 1612 Det, 861 Ten and only 400 DH. How in the world would I get DH up, so it exceeds Det?

[edit] Above is for my PLD. My warrior is only lvl56 now. One of the points is: at lvl56 you can remove materia without losing it. But on lvl90 you can't just swap materia. Which is the reason I didn't meld anything yet in that lvl90 gear.

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As Videra said it is just your melding priority. Always meld crits first into everything you can meld it (if you end up overcapping on an item, a.i. you want to meld 36 crit into an item but it only has 20 left until it reaches the cap and you would lose 16 crit from that materia, then meld something else), then meld direct hit into everything you can't meld crit into.

Sometimes you want to meld Determination because it gives you more dps than Direct Hit due to stat tiers, but that's really just an optimization thing.
You can find the different stat tiers here if you actually care about that https://www.akhmorning.com/allagan-s...stats-overview

Thank you all, this explains a lot :)