A Change to Phoenix Downs

This is a really good suggestion and with some restrictions for highend content it would be impossible to abuse in any way while also giving the devs the possibility to make a healer a necessity for every party without punishing the party if the healer died instead of ensuring that everyone is perfectly fine without one in case the healer makes a mistake.
Laying there while the party is completely fine without you is just adding insult to injury after dying to something from making a mistake.
And giving such an iconic FF item an actual use would be nice.

Another option would be to give all healers a re-raise with a long cooldown and put similar restrictions on it that it either can't be used at all in endgame or only as a once-per-fight thing. Because from what I've seen the devs are quite stubborn when it comes to making any consumable as uninteresting as humanly possible so nobody feels pressured to have them - even if you get them literally for free.

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Originally Posted by DezereDawn

Definitely can agree with this as an idea, Phoenix downs are an iconic ff item and it feels really weird to let them languish in obscurity here

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That's actually the reason why they're in the game but somewhat limited as I understand it - Yoshi considers them an iconic item for the FF series but is concerned about game balance and so that was the compromise to having them appear in the game.

I agree though that it would be nice to perhaps make them a little bit easier to use (such as being able to stack them), but I'm pretty confident to say that Yoshi probably won't be doing anything with them sadly.

Yes please! I'm always up for changes to the way recovery items work in this game and it'd be really nice to have Phoenix Down actually be useful in battles. :D

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Originally Posted by Imora

The hell do you even get them?

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Phoenix downs? It feels like about 80% of the time in a deep dungeon run, opening a bronze chest (as opposed to the gold pomander ones or the silver aetherpool ones) will give you a phoenix down.

(And since you will usually already have a phoenix down, it will instead give you an error message that you already possess a phoenix down.)

When i got that for the first time in this game, i was excited since i didn't have any healing\rez job and thought i could use at open areas only to learn that you can't use at players that are not in your party plus not in combat and can only keep one, making a waste of inventory space.

Only good for deep dungeon but still dissapointing...
The only actual consumable that i use and never sell are the HQ Max Potions you keep getting in PotD: those potions heal well for ARR\HW content and have a shorter cooldown than Second Wind. So it is weird phoenix downs just feel meh.

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Originally Posted by Jettinson

The only actual consumable that i use and never sell are the HQ Max Potions you keep getting in PotD: those potions heal well for ARR\HW content and have a shorter cooldown than Second Wind. So it is weird phoenix downs just feel meh.

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Oh I sell them. But that's because I have a stack of 999 and I don't want to dedicate more than one inventory slot to them. ;)

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Oh I sell them. But that's because I have a stack of 999 and I don't want to dedicate more than one inventory slot to them. ;)

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That's fair, i just like using consumables overall :P

Just removing the unique tag would be enough to make them actually worth carrying.

I can't help but agree with this. Make Phoenix Downs useful in this game. My only real question is, why has there never been a Phoenix Up?

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Originally Posted by Adeacia

I can't help but agree with this. Make Phoenix Downs useful in this game. My only real question is, why has there never been a Phoenix Up?

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Down in this case refers to feathers.