Match quality is a joke

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

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First, sorry for the Double Post, posting from a Phone has its limitations.

Lets assume and say Matchmaking would be "fixed" by queuing you alongside People of equal or near equal "skill", which WILL mean (judging on how squeenix always handles things) you fight aganist and with people from your Rank only OR within a rating score that works on a similar level.

The biggest Problem, such a thing would have, is the way how it limits itself and how it can be abused, allow me to elaborate further:

Lets say you are in Gold Rank with a Elo Score of 1500, the matchmaker only allows you to get queued with People +/- 250 to 500 Rating closest to you, prioritising the ones closest to you (since you want People who are closest to your level). Not only will you end up in a Match with always the sane People, it can also be easily abused to encourage Wintrading (like back in Feast, since low entry People from Unranked/Bronze will be discouraged to progress, since they only queue with "the worst") and History will only repeat itself at this point.

And then there is the matter of People using Alts for PvP. It is by no means a bad thing in itself, but a Alt character who'se only purpose is to sabotage matches in a legal way is a frightening hurdle to overcome, especially in a Elo Ranking based Matchmaker.

You only need to see the Feast Ranking from Season 18 from Chaos Datacenter and you will see what im talking about.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

Why else would anyone ever bother on the Forums and blame it on Matchmaking, if not for this? There is bad People in every Ranking Ladder, even in Crystal. It was no different in Feast, when we push the matter of wintrades and so on aside.


Oh and on a sidenote, just because something doesn't make sense to you, doesnt mean it overall makes no sense, maybe thats why People like you complain in the first place, hm?

Tl;dr: Matchmaking is fine, People are not.

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Man the toxic trolls have taken a serious hit in quality.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

Man the toxic trolls have taken a serious hit in quality.

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Most People who do PvP are highly inflammable rather than toxic, at least get your Chemistry Hazards right.

I'm literally on top 100 right now. Every single player on top 100 will tell you the same thing. The games are absolute garbage in Crystal with the extremely low quality of players hardstuck in Diamond/Crystal 0 points. It's not even a matter of gameplay errors, there's people in these queues who genuinely don't have keys bound and backpedal around. For the highest bracket of gameplay matches shouldn't be decided by who got the 200k done/800k taken brynhildr warrior hardstuck d5 every single game.

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Originally Posted by rofland

I'm literally on top 100 right now. Every single player on top 100 will tell you the same thing. The games are absolute garbage in Crystal with the extremely low quality of players hardstuck in Diamond/Crystal 0 points. It's not even a matter of gameplay errors, there's people in these queues who genuinely don't have keys bound and backpedal around. For the highest bracket of gameplay matches shouldn't be decided by who got the 200k done/800k taken brynhildr warrior hardstuck d5 every single game.

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To be fair I'd say a lot of people who reach crystal don't care about climbing anymore so they play different jobs and relax a bit and just trying to have fun since being in the top 100 really doesn't have much meaning with a lot (not all) of them being win traders and cheaters.

To say the quality is low though is kind of silly. The level of focus fire in crystal is significantly higher and more consistent. In plat and diamond people would focus the hell out of me on war. In crystal I more or less get ignored as the team focuses down the easier to kill jobs. When I play mch or rpr to simply just have a change of pace....its night and day on how much I get focused where as when I was in plat people would outright ignore me as rpr in the backline killing their healer.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

The level of focus fire in crystal is significantly higher and more consistent.

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Not even remotely true.

I just got to diamond on rpr. Every single match since has felt like bronze matches.

Teammates allergic to crystal. Not doing any dmg or using LB in any useful way.

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Originally Posted by rofland

Crystal is indistinguishable from unranked/bronze. Please bring back the old Feast brackets.

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It's actually worse. People in Bronze are still trying to get better and win.
Crystal is full of folks who realized they'll never hit top 100 and are just screwing around.
There's no penalty for throwing matches because you can't de-rank. It's an absolute dumpster fire.