Ok so looks like people are still taking advantage and getting multiple houses.

I notice that the plots bought successfully are exactly the same in all 5 materia worlds.

If not for the zero bug right now, this person would already have successfully bought the entire ward 2 in all 5 Materia worlds.

And SE still allocates 75% of housing to FC wards so that people like this can abuse the loophole lol.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

Yeah nah, as Jojoya says, this on Materia. (OCE)

Goblet is only one day old here when that picture is taken. No grandfathering.

Same person has done it on all five servers in Materia, taken Goblet 2, five times over.

I can imagine how it would be worse if the zero bug didn't happen, but there is the next round eventually, so everyone expects to see then take the whole ward five times over.

Which is an impressive feat, really. World first at owning anentire DC's housing, easily beating grandfathered <<lucis>> on Spriggin, isn't it?

EDIT: Seems their empire is growing

16-20 homes now on day two of goblet on each of the five servers.

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In the latest Announcement, Yoshi P mentioned:

"While some plots underwent the lottery process and are displaying the results as intended"

I think this implies that all people who've got their plots already will keep their houses.

Which raises the question why there are so many FCs with the same tag winning the lottery in places such as the goblet, even with the 30 days and 4 fc member rule measure in place, they were prepared for this housing measure prior of release it almost seem like.

Of course everything I said hinges on that comment in the latest Yoshi P announcement, I could be jumping to conclusions here.

Each FC with airships and subs can generate about 400k a day, you're allowed 1 FC per world per character even with the new rules; not to mention the ones grandfathered over from the previous patches. This is a extremely effective Gil farm and RMT websites buy wholesale from these FC owners.

I don't know how we can fix this, but SE should be at least aware of this.

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Originally Posted by Papi_Chai

Each FC with airships and subs can generate about 400k a day, you're allowed 1 FC per world per character even with the new rules; not to mention the ones grandfathered over from the previous patches. This is a extremely effective Gil farm and RMT websites buy wholesale from these FC owners.

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There might be a minority of FC owners who sell workshop gil to RMT websites.

However, generating gil via the workshop is highly inefficient when you can use crafting/gathering/undercutting bots 24/7 to generate RMT gil

It takes 3- 4 months and millions of gil to get a workshop to the point where it can generate ~400k a day.

There are quite a number of RMTers in popular XIV discords and subreddits who openly discuss their methods because they think SE's TOS enforcement is a joke.

I agree, though as inefficient as it may be, it's low effort. low risk and can be botted. Once they have a "gil printer", they have a "IRL currency printer".

The fact this loophole still exists is hilarious. On one hand, legitimate FCs with no history of re-selling being screwed over by the JP worlds regrouping are denied a chance to waive the 30 day FC purchasing limitation. On the other hand, people are still blatantly able to purchase multiple housing slots. "Preserve the integrity of the lottery system" indeed.

The game's vision and story is good but their development team is really out of touch and dropping the ball.

People multiboxed in WoW with 40 characters, that's 40 unique accounts that pays for a subscription a month.

It's not surprising people got the funds and willpower to do something similar with FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Raiu

People multiboxed in WoW with 40 characters, that's 40 unique accounts that pays for a subscription a month.

It's not surprising people got the funds and willpower to do something similar with FFXIV.

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biggest problem is and will be, that most of those multiboxer are not playling the game for the game
they have that many service accounts for RMT use only and nothing else ................
sure they pay for multiple accounts, but they abuse the system and destroy the game for thousand others

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Originally Posted by KuroMaboroshi

It does indeed. I don't know all the server names by heart, so I wasn't aware this on is on OCE. In that case, consider my attempt at an explanation retracted and I would also be curious to know how this happened.

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Because SE allows it.

The restriction is that an account does not have a character on the same account that "owns as buyer" a FC house on the same world. "Owns as buyer" means the character must be in a FC and was the purchaser of the house that FC owns. If the character leaves that FC, it no longer "owns as buyer" and so any character on the account (including that one) is able to purchase another FC house as long as they have been in their current FC at least 30 days.

It does take multiple service accounts to pull off but it's "legal" under the stated rules. Multiple house ownership has never stopped being a thing. SE has only made it more difficult to accomplish.

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Originally Posted by Papi_Chai

Which raises the question why there are so many FCs with the same tag winning the lottery in places such as the goblet, even with the 30 days and 4 fc member rule measure in place, they were prepared for this housing measure prior of release it almost seem like.

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I've no doubt they started making plans back in November when the new data center was announced and were ready to start setting up characters and FCs when it opened in January. They couldn't afford to wait since SE hadn't released the information about how long the new member period would last.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Potential loopholes in the rules were very easy to spot. Of course there were people ready to capitalize on them with SE's lack of past enforcement of housing rules. They know they would not be stopped, nor would anything be taken away from them.

SE probably felt that the lottery RNG would reduce the occurrences but they also failed to realize the demand for FC housing just is not there. There is no RNG when there is no competition for the plots. Setting aside 18 wards was a field day for those prepared, especially on a new data center where demand was almost non-existent compared to the supply.

I'm puzzled as to how a single FC can win more than one house in the lottery. How does that work?

I didn't even think that an FC was able to own more than one house at a time.

Was the system intended to let a single FC own more than one house?

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I'm puzzled as to how a single FC can win more than one house in the lottery. How does that work?

I didn't even think that an FC was able to own more than one house at a time.

Was the system intended to let a single FC own more than one house?

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Because it's not the same FC.

A FC can only own a single FC house.

It's different FCs using the same <<TAG>>

FC tags are not unique.