My issues with the new housing systems.

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Originally Posted by Palslow

FFXIV is the only game I play, so can anyone tell me how other games deal with housing in a much better way? why can't FFXIV copy their method?

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SE XIV would have to scrap the entire housing system to make it work like other games (or so we have been told by various people against instanced housing bc they want to keep making surplus gil/ RMT on flipping FC plots which they can still do)

Some games (like FFXI) you just had a house. You didn't have to mentally hurt yourself for one.
Some games, just give you a house after a certain period whether it's story advancement or crafting related.

Other games created instanced housing. So, you & I & 20 other folks could own the same house but a page comes up that shows the users who own the same plot, but friends are on the top- so you can click on your friends & the furniture/ designs would change to match what your friend put & now you are in your friends house.
If it's your house, you just enter to see your house but you can also view other peoples designs on the same house- it's like a tab/ UI page you can cycle through

That's how Black Desert did it & it's similar to ESO
In BDO (black desert) - the towns usually looked lived in because the houses were often in cramped alley ways around NPCs or high up in tree canopies.

Wildstar you had your own island that you could literally turn into a town/ barren desert/ ocean/ elven forest/ magical snowfields/ spooky cavern/ creepy asteroid with a black hole- the only limits were your budget & imagination lol
You could size the items up or down- and they didn't pixelate.

Things folks have suggested for literal years for XIV:
Instanced houses/ islands
Increased apartment size
Apartment roommates
Garden plots for apartments
Increased interior item limit & storage for all house sizes
Reworked Housing UI for decorating- x, y, z Axis placement (similar to other MMOs)
Adjustable room lighting per room
Adjustable music per room

The neighborhoods in XIV are mostly ghost towns so that system has failed & is flawed.
The lotto *is* good on paper & is good so you don't have to sit at a placard all day, losing to a bot that runs a 3rd party program to click faster.

Some would argue that apartments are instanced housing & technically, YES. BUT it lacks any good features that owning a plot or FC actually provides.
Having an apartment is a literal downgrade & waste of gil unless you need a storage space.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

I would send these pictures over to the bug forums. Cause either that is a bug or some one made that many accounts as you can only have at most 2 houses per account per server and only 1 being a FC house.

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It's likely the same person with multiple accounts or people in agreement buying these plots (shell FCs)- since the FC's only had 1-5 entries bc of lack of demand
FC tags are not unique so I basically could have my friends with all of their gil make an FC- all different FC's of course, but with the same FC tag.
This is probably to show this person/ people are FC house flippers. They likely belong to the housing discord.
there are folks literally sitting on max amounts of gil who just do this stuff for fun

UPDATE:

So here's a thing I noticed to.

With purchasing a ticket, the system IN NO WAY SHAPE OF FORM! Notifies you of your pending lottery ticket plot numbers.

So if I forgot what placard I bid at, do I just... Lose my gil because I forgot where it was and let it go unclaimed?


I know there's gonna be a few inconsiderate people who are like "well if you forget what house you are trying to get, then you deserve to lose your gil", but that's not the point. Anyone, in excitement, can bid before they find out what ward/plot they was at, and get caught up in the moment. Things do happen, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be ANY NOTICE about it.


A EASY GIVEN SOLUTION WOULD BE TO SCRAP THE IDEA OF GOING BACK TO THE PLOT, AND JUST MAIL THE GIL BACK TO THE LOSING LOTTERY TICKET HOLDERS!


Like seriously. No one wants to be kicked while they are down, have to walk back to the house they lost, possibly meet toxic new home owners as they gloat, and then claim their earnings and walk away to wait 4 days before they can try this demoralizing task again. Like seriously, what the hell happened FFXIV Dev team with housing? How is so much of this stuff overlooked? For real, do better. You are more than capable enough. This is sloppy and shoddy at best.

As much as I hate this system and think it's been very poorly implemented, you actually can check which plot you bid on. I had a little notification when I logged in saying the results were pending and when I clicked it it opened a menu showing which plot I'd bid for.

I think it's in the same menu as timers? I'm not at my PC to check but yeah.

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Originally Posted by Olivia0x25

UPDATE:

So here's a thing I noticed to.

With purchasing a ticket, the system IN NO WAY SHAPE OF FORM! Notifies you of your pending lottery ticket plot numbers.

So if I forgot what placard I bid at, do I just... Lose my gil because I forgot where it was and let it go unclaimed?


I know there's gonna be a few inconsiderate people who are like "well if you forget what house you are trying to get, then you deserve to lose your gil", but that's not the point. Anyone, in excitement, can bid before they find out what ward/plot they was at, and get caught up in the moment. Things do happen, that doesn't mean there shouldn't be ANY NOTICE about it.


A EASY GIVEN SOLUTION WOULD BE TO SCRAP THE IDEA OF GOING BACK TO THE PLOT, AND JUST MAIL THE GIL BACK TO THE LOSING LOTTERY TICKET HOLDERS!


Like seriously. No one wants to be kicked while they are down, have to walk back to the house they lost, possibly meet toxic new home owners as they gloat, and then claim their earnings and walk away to wait 4 days before they can try this demoralizing task again. Like seriously, what the hell happened FFXIV Dev team with housing? How is so much of this stuff overlooked? For real, do better. You are more than capable enough. This is sloppy and shoddy at best.

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You can check which plot that you've bid on, not sure if under the duty menu but I would start there. Aside from that , i agree that forcing the people that lost their bid to walk back to the plot is idiotic. As you say, the system should automatically send a mail back to whomever loses. Now, if the person's mailbox is full, then i would force then to walk back rather than having them forfeit their money.

It isn't so much a matter of the winner "gloating" or being toxic' (really- hasn't that been used a been much by now????) , but as you say, why kick someone while they're down.

I don't mind the lotto, its way better than praying to RNGjebus infront of a placard full of bots spamming a macro all day long.. what bothers is me is the fact that FC houses can be bid on multipul times by the same FC, just give them the proper rank and GG theres another ticket in the pot.. And as much as I would love to believe everyone is fair in this world and made the gold via legit means.. most do not and its not goona be shocker if those multipul entries from the same FC were funded by bots.

Thus giving more attention to gold selling bots.. Its no surprise that they've increased lately and have been literally spamming via PM more often leading up to the lottery entry date.. I've had to block SO many..

I would prefer they leave it to one entry per FC and only the FC Master can bid.

You can check under timers I believe, and you get a popup option when you log in.

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Originally Posted by Tirian_Strider

You can check under timers I believe, and you get a popup option when you log in.

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Not sure how to edit, but this was in regards to how you can check which plot you bid on once the results are announced. Before that, I'm pretty sure you just need to write down what plot you bid on.

Overall, all of your points hit the mark, we need instanced housing and we need it now, no more bandages over this broken system, it needs to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by Tirian_Strider

Overall, all of your points hit the mark, we need instanced housing and we need it now, no more bandages over this broken system, it needs to be fixed.

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We won't ever get instanced housing because we would all be alone in our instance where's the social interactions? The system will work itself out give a years or so and you'l see. I put in 5 bids in a 14 entry plot and lost number 10 won and I am fine with that. I like the countdown system it is exciting and worrying it is not boring.