So, about Zenos... (SPOILERS)

My headcanon is that he survived, slowly doing his little villain walk back across the universe. So slow in fact that he might as well be dead.

Yoshi: "His body is trapped in another dimension. You saw him stop breathing, and hear his heart stop beating."

Also Yoshi: "I release minions when their story is done."

Also my minion log contains: Alphinaud, Alisaie, Estinien, G'raha ...

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Originally Posted by weebtext

You know who else's story is done?

Thancred.

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The Exarch (name omitted for spoiler reasons)

Both should have died when they "died" in ShB.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

He's dead and gone - he outright tells you before the battle he was fully intending on burning through his entire aether, life and soul to go head on with the WoL (the WoL does pretty much the same thing). He consumed it all, and by the end, had nothing left (when the WoL finally knocks him down).

Only the WoL is saved by a deus ex machina, leaving Zenos dead, reviled and unmourned on the edge of the universe. Good riddance to the crazy stalker and his stupid prettyboy hair.

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Okay. If he's really dead this time then we should have got his cool scythe as a reward at least. I would never take it off my back for as long as I live.

But what about dynamis though? Even if he is truly dead, since he died in a place easily manipulated by emotion (dynamis), I still wonder if some part of himself will still survive and come back to the Source.

I half expect his reaper avatar to possess his corpse and ride it back as our 6.3 trial fight. At the least, it'll be the final nail in his coffin.

I was sick of Zenos after 4.x but after EW it's wrapped back around the scale to me being okay with him coming back yet again -- or his avatar -- just to have a spicy travelling companion at this point. Besides, he's still used up less lives than Y'shtola.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Is he dead again? Because after the ending of Endwalker, I personally don't think his dead. Just body? Sure! But the guy doesn't need his body to still be alive. Ge's practically an Ascian with his Resonant. So, unless he completely burnt all his aether, including the bit that sustains his life force in are final fight, I'm doubting he's dead and I have a feeling he'll return in an expansion or two through dynamism since he was left in that weird plane of it.

Thoughts?

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Regarding Zenos, the story has jumped the shark here. The devs can do whatever they want to do and it wouldn't faze most people at this point.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I half expect his reaper avatar to possess his corpse and ride it back as our 6.3 trial fight. At the least, it'll be the final nail in his coffin.

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I'm additionally expecting that the thing is one of our shards after Yoshi not so subtly suggested such, which would give it a logical reason to start hounding us as well as a reason for why Zenos would've chosen that one in particular.

I feel like it might end up crossing over into the Source proper so we can kill it permanently because they've established that voidsent can't really die otherwise due to their souls simply returning to their bodies back in the void as long as they remain intact, rather then being sent to the Lifestream.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

And

The Exarch (name omitted for spoiler reasons)

Both should have died when they "died" in ShB.

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I recall someone pointing the reason that Thancred didn't die was because the Trust System was in the game and there wouldn't of been an npc tank to make sense if Thancred did die. So ya, as long as the trust system exists, you know anyone in it is not going to die. It's why I didn't have too much of a reaction towards the Ultima Thule area when the party was getting picked off one by one.

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Originally Posted by Soge01

Okay. If he's really dead this time then we should have got his cool scythe as a reward at least. I would never take it off my back for as long as I live.

But what about dynamis though? Even if he is truly dead, since he died in a place easily manipulated by emotion (dynamis), I still wonder if some part of himself will still survive and come back to the Source.

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If anything, dynamis makes it more likely he's dead. Everyone who knows of him wants him dead, zenos himself wants to be dead, everything dynamis has to act on says zenos is dead.

The devs can do what they want but the only way zenos comes back is if the devs retcon things and say he's back for reasons. I don't think that will sit well with anyone.