Doton uses Single Target

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Originally Posted by AziraSyuren

I imagine there are very niche scenarios where downtime would lead to Doton being a gain on single target (not that I've ever heard of them, I just imagine it's possible), but otherwise, no, it's never a good idea outside of prepull shenanigans.

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I suppose if downtime is 20s AND you're capped on mudras, dropping Doton right away would be a gain of a couple of ticks.

Mudra would be back by the time the boss comes back, and Doton would stick around for 4 sec.

Right?

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Originally Posted by AziraSyuren

I imagine there are very niche scenarios where downtime would lead to Doton being a gain on single target (not that I've ever heard of them, I just imagine it's possible), but otherwise, no, it's never a good idea outside of prepull shenanigans.

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It's possible that such a scenario could exist, but no such scenario actually exists in the game post-pull.

One day, maybe there will be a boss that's weak to heavy.

single target doton is called "std" for a reason. not even once

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Originally Posted by andrealfus

single target doton is called "std" for a reason. not even once

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This is the way.

iirc the only reason to use Doton is because you don’t have Meisui to make TCJ suiton a gain on single target, so basically only for Stormblood level-cap instances and one Shadowbringers dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Grimoire-M

iirc the only reason to use Doton is because you don’t have Meisui to make TCJ suiton a gain on single target, so basically only for Stormblood level-cap instances and one Shadowbringers dungeon.

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At that point, you used Ten Chi Jin to set up a trick attack rather than using it into a meisui, it was a DPS increase at the time to use get a raiton and fuma while building to the suiton rather than spending all three mudras to do suiton.

This thread aged well.

It is hard to find any proper information about it in ENDWALKER and it is taken as default.

Nowadays Doton duration is reduced and even all ticks included it is never stronger than Raiton. Raiton simply outscales Doton.

There is however situational use of Doton if boss summons adds. However it is not single target anymore.

Doton low duration makes it very weak in single target. Still usable in multi, but not really that necessary either, skill lasting barely 16 seconds.

Highly suggest to use it only to place only in AoE situations with 3+ mobs, for 1-2 still single target rotation is just enough. Most of mobs are made to not even survive those 16 seconds of Doton duration, hence usage is without sense.

Unless you can get that juicy free Doton and reset mudras with Hide.

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Originally Posted by Shenken

Unless you can get that juicy free Doton and reset mudras with Hide.

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This is no longer a thing because they nerfed Doton to disappear entirely under the effect of Hide, so prepull Doton doesn't exist either.

So no, you never use Doton in single target situations.