Petion to add a 7min invincibility to S Ranks upon their spawn.

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Originally Posted by Zoner

I'm a spawner and I don't have an obligation to spend hours spawning an S rank for a guy and his friends that don't even need the kills to come kill an S rank because they like trolling everyday, all I want is to take any obligation or correctness outta the equation by adding a 7min invincibility to S ranks.

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oh no no to be clear, I'm saying the griefer needs to go outdoors, not you. I know who you're talking about as well lol.

but yeah I'd agree a timer would be nice, but currently since there's none we just kinda have to deal with it

They need to do something at this point because the hunting detecting apps/mods have proliferated to the point where you have literally hundreds of people arriving at a S rank within a minute of it spawning. If you're not using them directly or at least getting relays from these programs, your chances of getting to a hunt are slim. I've even missed hunts that spawned in a different instance of the same zone as me due to how absurd the queue congestion gets at prime time.

Sad thing is, the spawners requested the person who made the most prominent of said apps to add a grace period before it relays for the sake of making things more fair to them, but then the lazy people using said app accused us and the maker of "gatekeeping" as though it was their right to be getting to these hunts when we have no obligation to share them whatsoever, whilst they're not doing anything other then waiting by the aetherytes for relays to go out. Lamentably, they caved to pressure so now the people who are actively involving themselves in trying to spawn the S ranks are at the greatest risk of missing out, which is NOT how things should be.

It really just speaks for how utterly broken the system is right now. S rank have an extremely disproportionate effort to reward ratio as is, so I see absolutely no harm making them last longer and they can't realistically prevent people from using these third party programs so mitigating/removing the advantage they gain from getting to a hunt faster then everyone else is really the only option available. Having a five minute grace period before a hunt actually becomes attackable after spawning would be an easy solution to that.`

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Originally Posted by Zoner

Our server has a problem with a certain person that already has all the Hunt Achievements intentionally pulling early to impede other plays progress, that has been going on for months despite having been reported to GMs and such.

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I dont like players pulling early but i also dont want SE to grant hunts 7min invincibility.

Some advice!
Do not tell other ppl ingame to report said "prepuller" if those players really want to troll you they can easily report you for that and you will get a timeout from the game if you continue to do so.
GMs will not take actions against a "prepull", but for players spam reporting a person that is not breaking any rules... .. who knows

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Originally Posted by Nuki

I dont like players pulling early but i also dont want SE to grant hunts 7min invincibility.

Some advice!
Do not tell other ppl ingame to report said "prepuller" if those players really want to troll you they can easily report you for that and you will get a timeout from the game if you continue to do so.
GMs will not take actions against a "prepull", but for players spam reporting a person that is not breaking any rules... .. who knows

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I fail to see what the issue with adding a grace period for S ranks spawns is outside of general impatience.

The hunts are almost completely hands-off to the GMs though as our DC has routinely had to deal with people openly and repeatedly griefing either by immediately pulling the S ranks and directing their attacks into the mob of waiting players or just pulling the SS rank minions then despawning them. Neither behavior was ever punished despite dozens of people reporting the guilty parties.

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Originally Posted by Nuki

I dont like players pulling early but i also dont want SE to grant hunts 7min invincibility.

Some advice!
Do not tell other ppl ingame to report said "prepuller" if those players really want to troll you they can easily report you for that and you will get a timeout from the game if you continue to do so.
GMs will not take actions against a "prepull", but for players spam reporting a person that is not breaking any rules... .. who knows

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7mins might seem like a long time to a laymen but it usually takes about 2 min to travel and find its exact location, 2-3 mins for information to travel thro various linkshells, another 2mins of travel time for ppl to gather. For spawners it's 2nd nature to wait a long time before killing.

I'm also a spawner and would love if there was a grace period added to S ranks. Especially the EW SS ranks. People have started swarming the spawn points for the Ker, and it's not fair to the people who are fighting the minions far away. I've seen people who were killing minions barely make it to the Ker hunt because there are already 100 people at the spawn location. There are just way more people "participating" in hunting now. And I put participating in quotes because half of these people are just camping the aetherytes and don't even know how to spawn anything. The system needs a rework.

Or just make spawner get a buff to get the reward/kill count if he/she is still in the instance/map and the mobs is killed in less than 10 min or something like that? Its fair for the spawner

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Originally Posted by Zoner

Our server has a problem with a certain person that already has all the Hunt Achievements intentionally pulling early to impede other plays progress, that has been going on for months despite having been reported to GMs and such.

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I know exactly who you are referring to. They hop to my server all the time to mess with people. Yeah, there are no rules being broken, but they are still doing it to be a jerk just because they can which is not okay. They are not shy about it either in chat. I'd consider it griefing in their case, but it is what it is I suppose. I think 7 minutes would be far too long though. Maybe 2-3, if that, would be ideal. To me, that would be a reasonable wait time.

Cant enjoy hunts really cause I am on ps4 :( But got to say a few mins of invun and the hunt not aggroing would not hurt. Would still be able to pull soon as the invun drops.

7 minutes is crazy lol