If crafting was still inaccessible and difficult like Heavensward Patches, you’d quit

Crafting was by large, pretty inaccessible to most people because you would have to commit to it.

Crafting as it is now, simplified for the better. Yes I get that people want it to be harder and "for the pros" but crafting has so many benefits if it were more accessible. Things like melding your own materia, repairing your own gear and even crafting your own gear is satisfying. The whole argument of "now everyone can compete because we're all equal" which is wrong. Crafting and selling is very intense and requires prior knowledge and understanding of how the marketboard works. Not everyone is going to do that destroy competition. In fact, encouraging more competition on the marketboard is healthy as it is in reality with the economy. No more having drop tons of money just because there were only a handful of people selling and essentially controlling the pricing.

Also being able to efficiently crafting and selling at a high rate requires top tier melds and that requires overmelding and that in itself does not appeal it to a lot of people as dropping millions of gil to perfect your meld set.

Still having level all 8 crafters is rather daunting and obtaining master recipes for all of them is time-consuming.

So to answer your initial question, no. I get wanting more complexity in it as the desire to want complex jobs so you can feel a sense of accomplishment by understanding it but it's really unfair to people who isn't super into just trying to make crafts for themselves or a friend.

And no matter how much people complain about casuals ruining the game, remembering that casuals also fund the game so it is in SE's best interest to more things more accessible.

I like the way crafting is currently as its not super hard to understand and rewarding for anyone new to jump into.

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Originally Posted by CrayonsAndPaint

...I was wondering if crafting was still as difficult, rng heavy, and grindy like Heavensward, would you still be playing ffxiv?

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The RNG fail was a pain, but it was more fun overall. So, while I'd like to remove the RNG fail chance I'd add in a RNG mandated spell at points, something to completely remove crafting macros.

I'd likely craft more than I do now in easy mode (with maxed DOH/DOL), which is really just making stuff for me and my pocket tank to eat.

I'd still play. It was just extra effort to craft back then. No big deal. :/

Bring back Whistle While at Work :p

Crafting wouldn't be so terrible if you could use mats from retainers.

It wasn't any harder than it is now... Still had to meld, still used macros. People just romanticize it.

Crafting was never my main draw and even now that it's easy I still can't be bothered. I'm quitting for other reasons.

Funny you mention that; crafting/gathering was my main entertainment when HW came out, and what they did to them in 3.1 drove me to cancel my sub and not touch the game until SB came out.

I like grinding, so it would be more of a reason for me to play lol. if it was more inaccessible I'd just spend my time making more gil instead of crafting collectibles for 20 hours so i can pentameld my gear for free lmao

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Originally Posted by Velnora

Crafting wouldn't be so terrible if you could use mats from retainers.

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yes!!!!! the thing I hate most about crafting is having to go to my retainers and pull out each mat individually and then they end up cluttering my inventory so I have to put them back but then I need them again so I take them out lmao.... truly wish they'd just let you craft with items directly from your retainers. especially since a lot of the mats look similar, so it's kind of a pain to search for all of them, esp since I have basically every crafting mat (besides cul/alch ones) stored up from desynthing and gathering

Most of the people I know barely care or touch crafting in a meaningful way, they level it, buy gear and slap some macros in case they want to do something that requires more than 3 buttons and that's it, they level it with beast tribes and call it a day. I don't think most people would care.

Aren't most of the benefits from easily having crafters are solved by going into a npc or asking for a friend? I do kinda wish there was a more... "thought" aspect of it. Also, I liked the cross-skill thingy, at least for crafting at least helped to give each crafter a flavour, since they are sort of all the same.

I don't mind the fast levelling we have nowadays, however I do wish that it had some content that wasn't just macroable, perhaps a collectable aspect of it (like fishing) or some sort of mini-game. Also, a better inventory management so it's you don't need to be an organized gal to partake in it. The crafting section of the forums actually had a very deep discussion regarding this not long ago I believe;

I never tried it back in HW, so I don't have much opinions regarding the past (except for the cross-skill system), the system itself is interesting, but the execution is very lacking, I wouldn't mind having it to be a bit harder.