Healers please

Those two EX trials has pretty low healing requirement. When I brought WHM into the farm PFs, the only time I actually use Medica II was when I have no target to dps. These moments only happens during both bosses’ ultimate attacks. The rest are fixed by responsible use of oGCDs & lily heals. Of course, this is assuming the encounter is progressing without too much hiccups.

Cure II? Regens? Only if somebody took unnecessary damage. More than often they are overkill anyway because my co-heal also thinking something similar. But such is the way of PF: you will never know your rando co-healers’ methods until one or two pulls. Beyond that, adjust or request.

SGEs also prefer to keep their addersgall rolling to keep their MP healthy: those are considerable amount of healing they’re putting out, enough for me to not touch my own GCDs (except lilies) as a WHM. Why do I want to negate their Kerakeia, and other free heals by topping people up unless needed? That’d be disrespecting their resources.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

If one healer is enough to heal the stack mechanic, what is the other healer meant to do?

Overheal together with you? Inefficient.

Heal more, while you heal less and dps more? Doesn't matter who does what unless you care about parse numbers.

Heal more, while you heal less and don't dps? That's a dps loss.

There's no harm in doing damage and using some instant healing abilities in between casts to support the other healer.

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Thats not a loss in dps. If the other healer actually healed and or mitigated some of the damage. I could be doing damage as well. Increasing dps overall. whats better 1 healer dps or 2 healer dps after everything is all good and healed? Your logic is wrong. I could heal everything but at that point I might as well get another dps instead of a healer that's not contributing what so ever. That way I know the dps is doing its role

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Originally Posted by LazyMemories

So please I beg of you. do some aoe healing succor, medica 2 cure 3 if close, medica, prognosis ect.

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Absolutely not. I've healed both EX's without touching any of those except for when the boss can't be targeted. Usually my co-healer is still being pushed into overheal and bored and no one is in any danger of dying. Cure III should only be used in either EX in dire emergency. I've only used it twice this expansion.

While bad healers and exceptions exist, chances are you're just panicking and feeling unsafe when health bars aren't full. Raidwides in EX are often spaced quite far apart, so if I as a healer know the next potential raid damage is 30+ seconds away, I'm not going to rush to heal it. Assize will probably come up soon, or my co-heal might have an oGCD (especially Sage who needs to use certain oGCD's for mana regen or AST who gains dps from Star), or I might place Asylum and let it do it's job, or I might wait for a Lily.
Sage, AST and even SCH likewise have a lot of oGCD HoT and regens in their toolkit, so even if it looks like they aren't casting heals, if you see HoT icons among your buffs, they've got you covered.

If you get a bad healer, it sucks, I agree. But if you get a healer with the above mindset, outside of genuine mistakes I guarantee you're safe. We're paying attention. It doesn't matter if people are at half health, we'll get them before the next damage. Sure we're spamming Glare or Broil or whatever, but if we have to GCD heal we'd do it.

If you spam Cure III or Medica II immediately after damage happens, you're actually causing your co-healer issues because you're wasting their carefully planned and mapped oGCD's and causing them to overheal. Healing in raids isn't just about filling hp bars asap, it's about working together with your co-heal so your toolkits synergize and compliment each others. Pay attention to HoT icons, check if there's a Star, Soil, Asylum down, give them a little time to see if they have an oGCD, as you learn a fight try and remember when each raidwide is and how far apart they are. You'll be a much better healer for it.

No can do. Got everyone screaming in my ear to DPS. :eek:
I'm no longer a White Mage but a Fight Mage sorry!

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

If you spam Cure III or Medica II immediately after damage happens, you're actually causing your co-healer issues because you're wasting their carefully planned and mapped oGCD's and causing them to overheal. Healing in raids isn't just about filling hp bars asap, it's about working together with your co-heal so your toolkits synergize and compliment each others. Pay attention to HoT icons, check if there's a Star, Soil, Asylum down, give them a little time to see if they have an oGCD, as you learn a fight try and remember when each raidwide is and how far apart they are. You'll be a much better healer for it.

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okay, so... how can you be so sure that your co healer has any kind of "plan" aside from spamming dps? how much time do you suggest giving until you know ifd they are a green dps or actually going to heal? members start dying? or you need to use LB3 to rez everyone? I usually leave my psychic shoes at home when I go into raids so if you have an easy way to figure out if the other healer has a plan, or even intends to heal, that would be wonderful. please educate us on this ability

I just do more healing when the other is "DPS" healer. The whole raid will find out when its a wipe because I'll definitely say "I feel like solo healing".

If im healing and others bars aren't full or about to be full, Im not doing my job. Or have I been healing wrong in mmos since 1999?

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Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume

If im healing and others bars aren't full or about to be full, Im not doing my job. Or have I been healing wrong in mmos since 1999?

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If you're helping your co healer in any sort of way I'd say you're healing right. If you're going in expecting the other healer to heal everything and you dps you're doing it wrong. Make sense? Otherwise I'll just use a pf and solo heal and get another dps who can dps efficiently.

You have indeed been doing it incorrectly since 1999. full hp and half hp are effectively the same thing if the monster cannot kill them in a single hit.
The healer's job is to prevent death, not maximize health pools.

When I heal the extreme trials, my favorite event is the other healer dying right before a damage burst. Because it's the only thing that makes healing interesting.

As it is, I generally cover most if not all damage myself, allowing the other healer to pewpew more.