please balance seals per hour

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

2k per hour is too much IMO. It would make all the company gear WAAAAAAAY too cheap to obtain. Half that would be awesome though.

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you think alot of these people complaining care?

i bet you a ton of them would think 10k per hour still isnt fast enough

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I see. I haven't done totorak to exploit it for seals. I heard you get a lot but didn't think it was 3k/hr. (Yes I think that separating from the party so you can get all the drops is an exploit, because it's clearly not an intended mechanic.)

That being said, I think they should increase the amount you can get via leves and choco escort and fix the totorak exploit.

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I am not aware of any exploit in Toto-Rak. (>.>) I go in with a friend, we speedrun the place, and in two runs, we walk away with 1500-2000 seals in items apiece. We do not split off into separate parties.

Two runs take about half an hour, a bit more if we're yakking it up while doing the run. We can indeed do four runs in just over an hour if we set HP in Ul'dah and tele back to Tranquil.

I do not think there is any exploit at work here. o.O We are simply grabbing the chests, and turning the items in.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I see. I haven't done totorak to exploit it for seals. I heard you get a lot but didn't think it was 3k/hr. (Yes I think that separating from the party so you can get all the drops is an exploit, because it's clearly not an intended mechanic.)

That being said, I think they should increase the amount you can get via leves and choco escort and fix the totorak exploit.

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Separating from the party may or may not have been the way they intended L25s to do it but they had to have realized that L50s would do it that way. Being able to travel a given distance from your other party members is hardly an exploit and I'd hardly classify it as a mechanic. It's just a thing that happens. If you don't need all 4 people to go down one path, why use that many? Divide and conquer.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I see. I haven't done totorak to exploit it for seals. I heard you get a lot but didn't think it was 3k/hr. (Yes I think that separating from the party so you can get all the drops is an exploit, because it's clearly not an intended mechanic.)

That being said, I think they should increase the amount you can get via leves and choco escort and fix the totorak exploit.

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Wtf are you talking about? There was no exploit on totorak, people just do speedruns normally.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you think alot of these people complaining care?

i bet you a ton of them would think 10k per hour still isnt fast enough

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i think totorok is a good source of seals and should be used as a bench mark for balance.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

you think alot of these people complaining care?

i bet you a ton of them would think 10k per hour still isnt fast enough

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Not really, everyone around here seems to want everything NOW, not caring for the journey between not having and having, which is where the real game is found.

funny coming from someone who kills SH nm's with over 30 poeple,lol

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Originally Posted by Chardrizard

Wtf are you talking about? There was no exploit on totorak, people just do speedruns normally.

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Yes there is an exploit. I'm not talking about a speed run. The exploit is that you get into a group to enter totorak, and everyone leaves the group allowing a single person to run around in the dungeon and get all the drops. You can't enter the dungeon solo, the exploit lies in the fact that these folks are completing the dungeon solo which shouldn't be allowed based on the entrance criteria.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

funny coming from someone who kills SH nm's with over 30 poeple,lol

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That's not an exploit because the game allows multiple parties to fight the same mob. It didn't use to be that way. Now, if I had found some way to get an outside party to be able to fight the same mob when only one group could attack it, thus circumventing the intended mechanics, that would be an exploit.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Yes there is an exploit. I'm not talking about a speed run. The exploit is that you get into a group to enter totorak, and everyone leaves the group allowing a single person to run around in the dungeon and get all the drops. You can't enter the dungeon solo, the exploit lies in the fact that these folks are completing the dungeon solo which shouldn't be allowed based on the entrance criteria.

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really, can you please not junk up my thread with this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

That's not an exploit because the game allows multiple parties to fight the same mob.

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well the game lets people drop party and leave the dungeon too.

and i wasnt saying it is an exploit, i was saying that you have the gimme now attitude when you zerge the SH instead of facing it as challenging content.