GNB QoL Change:

The core feeling of clunky-ness comes from the fact that no other tank is as forcefully dependent on their gauge more than GNB.

PLDs core burst comes from Fight or Flight and Requiscat, which are cooldown based, you can argue MP cost but Requiscat will still execute. WARs core burst comes from Inner Relase + Primal Rend and Inner Chaos, again cooldown based. DRKs comes from Delirium, Shadowbringers, Living Shadow, and Bloodweapon, all cooldowns. Living Shadow needs gauge, but only half of their gauge, every 2min, and Bloodweapon being every 1min ensures you'll have it.(unless I accident missed something from these three tanks)

Now look at GNB, who has to have a full three cartridge gauge, every 1min, to execute the core of their burst or their whole rotation is ruined. Only one way to get that gauge quickly through Bloodfest, but that only aligns every other burst.

This isn't a "skill issue" imo as rather a slight design flaw as it makes unnecessarily restrictive. Can't use my cartridges on a dungeon mob pack right before a boss or I will be waiting the 9gcds to be able to burst unless Bloodfest is there. Can't help burn an add phase faster because I need my cartridges to not be heavily misaligned with raid buffs. Shadowbringers GNB could though, as even if you spent all your gauge, getting three GCDs in for the bare minimum was feasible and not bothersome in its gameplay.

Changes to the maximum number of cartridges, or bloodfest, or Double Down, or adding any other affect to GNBs to alleviate this is needed. Just have to see if we get any changes in the future.

Agreed that it's not a skill issue, any weird timing on fight design will fuck us over

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Originally Posted by Ixon

This isn't a "skill issue" imo as rather a slight design flaw as it makes unnecessarily restrictive.

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This, in a nutshell. Add to that the apm tax eating up weave space you'd otherwise have for mitigation and feels more like Gnashing Fang ought to have a second charge --and some softer restraint or over-time bonus due to which effect you wouldn't want to chain them both into No Mercy every 60s-- than the kit needs a third cartridge.

I like new GNB a lot but the 3 cartridges are a little weird. Burst strike should not have gotten a continuation, I'm fact I'd say Fated Circle should have gotten it instead. Also why is Blasting Zone not an AoE? Gimme my serotonin SE.

I think needing three cartridges for a burst is the core issue for me. Having three max cartridges isn't bad in itself, it's the fact you NEED to have all three every minute is what makes it restrictive. I don't know if SE making Double Down cost one gauge would be the simple fix, but it would be miles better.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

three cartridges is fine
but double down should only cost 1 and no mercy last 25 seconds

Hyper velocity shouldn't be apart of continuation should just evolve Burst strike into a two hit move

as a side note Double down feels incredibly lifeless compared to other cartridge spenders while it looks cool and does a lot of damage just doesnt have the same impact as the cartridge combo or burst strike

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This is actually a good suggestion. Maybe just have Hyper as a GCD that does a crap ton of potency on a 30 second CD. So we canafter every Gnashing or something. Make potency like 600 or some crap.

Would GNB benefit from extremely low SkS? Allowing for comfortable double weaves for defensives when necessary?

perhaps sonic break could give a cartridge as well would make GNB feel better at lower levels too

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Originally Posted by Duskane

perhaps sonic break could give a cartridge as well would make GNB feel better at lower levels too

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That, or add another combo finisher that gives 2 cartridges instead of 1. So you have to alternate between said skill and Solid Barrel while keeping the powerful feel and cartridge management of 3 cartridges.

Ofc that would be bit more button bloat so Sonic Break giving one sounds a bit more reasonable, but I would like to not spam 1-2-3 in between GF cds.

The worst feeling with the required three cartridges is in dungeons tbh. In ShB you could burn all the gauge you wanted in a mob pull, Gnashing Fang Combo'd the last few adds down, jump right into the boss, 1-2-3 > burst. Can't do that anymore. Can't Gnashing Fang combo the last few mobs unless you've already pocketed two cartridges so you don't ruin/delay your burst on the boss. Holding onto cartridges in EW you could have spent burning down mobs faster like you could have in Shb just feels awful.

I like the idea of Double Down being one gauge, bumping the required to two(hell, DRK gets their 90 abilities for free). I completely understand the want of a longer NM to fit everything in, but tbh I dont know if I want a 25sec NM. If anything 21sec max to squeeze in the Hypervelocity. Adding more time to our already long window doesn't sit as well with me.

I think it would be cool if you had two gauges that hold two charges each. Normal cartridges, that work as normal, and Burst strikes, that you get charges of by using Burst Strike.

Burst Strikes can be spent on Hypervelocities, assuming nothing else is using the continuation button at that moment, or spend both on a Double Down.

I don't know, I haven't thought particularly deeply about it, but I think that could be fun (and let me weave/move a little easier.)