Physics on Summoner is very weak, intended or just a bug?

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Originally Posted by Riyshn

This is actually no longer true. If you check the tooltips, Physick on Summoner is listed as a ACN/SMN spell, while Physick on Scholar is listed as just SCH. These are two entirely separate spells that just happen to share the same name. It's been this way since the start of Shadowbringers, I believe. SMN-Physick still scaling off mind is either an oversight or strange design choice, not a necessary evil like it used to be.

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Indeed. There is no reason why Summoner's Physick can't scale off Intelligence while Scholar's remains scaled off Mind when they are separate spells.

I'm genuinely curious if Yoshi-P is even aware of this issue. Serious question. I'm getting concerned at this point.

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Originally Posted by Blueyes

Indeed. There is no reason why Summoner's Physick can't scale off Intelligence while Scholar's remains scaled off Mind when they are separate spells.

I'm genuinely curious if Yoshi-P is even aware of this issue. Serious question. I'm getting concerned at this point.

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From live letter 37:

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Originally Posted by Fazraye

Q: Red mage’s Vercure is affected by the intelligence attribute, but would it be possible to change summoner’s Physick so that the cure potency changes with intelligence?

A: Red mage was born from both white and black magic; however, summoner is different. Each of the jobs have their own roles. If all jobs were made equally, that would basically make every job the same. From a gaming perspective, I believe it would be more fun to have differences, so we carefully made adjustments so that the jobs do not become the same.

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They are aware, their reasoning is just not good reasoning. Physick has been discussed to death in the past and bizarrely there are people out there who defend the decision to keep it MND based.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...93#post4500993

To be fair, the whole Physick issue on SMN could easily be fixed if SMN would just get a trait/passive at lv30+ that influences it into scaling with INT, and maybe even turning into something like a high potency single target Heal on oGCD of either 60 or 120sec CD.

It took many expansions for SE to finally remove the useless Fluid Aura from WHM to combat skill bloats against a skill that no ones bother to put on their hotbars



Give them several more expansions and you will see Physick gone.

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Originally Posted by Cabalabob

From live letter 37:


They are aware, their reasoning is just not good reasoning. Physick has been discussed to death in the past and bizarrely there are people out there who defend the decision to keep it MND based.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...93#post4500993

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They removed Fluid Aura after nerfing it several times, so maybe they'll remove Physick someday if people keep complaining about it. That said, I do kinda agree with that reasoning, in a way. If smn could heal and raise just like rdm, they'd need to be hit with...what's it called? 'support tax' ? and I doubt most would be happy about that.

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Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki

It took many expansions for SE to finally remove the useless Fluid Aura from WHM to combat skill bloats against a skill that no ones bother to put on their hotbars



Give them several more expansions and you will see Physick gone.

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Which is funny because not only whm has the least bloat of all healers, but Aqua Veil is basically what Fluid Aura could've been turned/upgraded into, instead of "replaced" .... 71 levels later [Largesse/Temperance all over again huh?]

Not a doubt in my mind that smn mind physick isn't an obtuse piece of load bearing code at this point.

Like, if they delete it, you won't be able to access you glamour plates or limsa won't have water or something.

Alternatively, evolve physick to do the mediocre heal, but also a very minor shield (to make it “feel” in line with scholar)

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Alternatively, evolve physick to do the mediocre heal, but also a very minor shield (to make it “feel” in line with scholar)

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just turn it into there own version of Second wind basically make it lustrate lite

The odd thing is, during the recent live letter they said Resurrection survived the skill purge but not Physick. But Physick being removed would make more sense. It needs an adjustment, but the devs are oddly stubborn about certain things. They make some great decisions, but it's choices like this that just confuse the players.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

The odd thing is, during the recent live letter they said Resurrection survived the skill purge but not Physick. But Physick being removed would make more sense. It needs an adjustment, but the devs are oddly stubborn about certain things. They make some great decisions, but it's choices like this that just confuse the players.

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yeah all the old skills returning and being reworked was nice
steel peak,howling fist and i even saw Power surge icon of all things

please return brutal swing and Scourge thanks