Animosity with World of warcraft players who still like the game?

It's just a really big case of "WOW BAD XIV GOOD" that's gotten way out of hand.

I feel awful that you're running into people like this. I myself have played/joined WoW towards the very end of Legion and the beginning of BFA and ditched the game towards the end of BFA due to not enjoying it and began playing FFXIV. People who invalidate your opinion just because you played WoW for a moment in time are easily the worst to come across since they are so tribal, they don't realize their tribalism has the potential to chase away potential players with valid criticisms that can improve the game. In fact, I was just chatting it up on YouTube with a player who had stopped playing 4 months ago because they were receiving push back from the community due to them pointing out some improvements that the game could take. People who say the community isn't in the slightest toxic are completely turning a blind eye to the issue of this tribalism and glorification of FFXIV which is pushing away players, it is a problem and it needs to stop.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

The part I've always found ironic about the whole argument is that it isn't like WoW and XIV came out at the same time. WoW existed for almost 10 years before XIV. So there's a better than average chance that many early XIV players had played WoW at some point and migrated over from it.

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This is exactly right. Even in Heavensward, 6 years ago, if you talked to an average person for long enough you would eventually get a mention of how they tried wow for a bit. This game has had "24 million adventurers" play it, most of them are obviously not playing right now, but it means an average person in another game will probably say they played ffxiv for a bit.

Thinking on the dates, my first mmorpg I think was actually.. GW2*, ESO (beta), SWTOR (first one I put a lot of time in), and then FFXIV. I tried WoW in Legion, played it for less than I put in my current Oblivion save, and I couldn't care less what mmorpg someone came from. In fact, I think playing multiple mmorpgs gives further perspective on this game, and mmorpgs in general.

I still think it's funny how people will see me and call me a wow refugee. Like uhh, no i still play wow actively, more than this.

We got 2 types of players here in ff, the ones who have played wow, and liars.

Jokes aside, tribalism over videogames (and other things relating to it, like gatekeeping etc.) are absolutely ridiculous and it is something that the non-toxic great community btw of ours shines in. Honestly, the influx of players from other games recently has been very good for the community over all though, its been very refreshing. That said, since many of them are former wow players, there has been also an increase in pushback against these refugees, which is also stupid. People can be kinda stupid I guess...

I don't care what people play, but when people start (and they do) harping on about X other game to me and why it's better/worse/X copied Y etc, I either switch off from them, or gently remind them they are in this game right now (depends on my mood).

The problem is, people want validation. Coming to me, or I guess a lot of people, and trying to either start a conversation about a game I don't play or care about is not going to go anywhere. And if it's on the angle X is better than Y, then it isn't going to end well.

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Originally Posted by AriesDaBeeh

I've lost friends in this community for simply admitting to enjoying that game or not wanting to take place / enthuse in one of the hate circle jerks that seem to be full of people who cant get that game from being in their minds rent free.

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Jiminy Christmas, I am only 46 but I have already turned into my father. Because I say things like this:

"If you've "lost friends" over a silly video game, then they weren't really good friends to begin with, anyway."

I mean, it's really true. Debating over which subjective level of enjoyment is better than another is a futile endeavor if there ever was one. There is literally no right answer. Everyone is correct, for their own valid, personal reasons.

Subjectivity is like infinity - a difficult concept to understand, for many, and I get that. What I don't get is surrounding yourself with folks that only like you if you like the same things they do, since you don't need to "understand subjectivity" to find good friends. Avoid people who declare their favorite music to be the only 'good music' and disparage all the rest, people that patronize you if you don't gush over the latest MCU installment, or people that belittle you if you play and like both WoW and FFXIV.

Humans, unfortunately, often don't get how different each individual can be. If they like it, you like it, or else you're "weird". How very, very caveman.

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OP, you need friends who are genuinely interested in your personal subjective interests, be that the music you listen to, your favorite food or color, what books you read, what shows you watch, or indeed, what games you play. IMHO, a circle of friends would be ridiculously boring if everyone only liked the same things, and the rest of the circle was intolerant of what I liked. How the absolute hell would we have disco night, then?

...and last disco night was sick.

In closing, another thing to keep in mind is that this goes both ways. Indeed, sometimes you'll be the only one in the group that likes something. That's a normal part of life. In those situations, you'll need to decide if any friendship is worth the disagreements that come about when your subjective likes don't match the rest of the group. Disco night was fun, sure, but if I was the only one having fun, is it worth losing friends over?

I dunno, is it? That's a personal decision based on the qualities of the friendship.

OK, anyway, as my dad always said:

"Find better friends, son."

Same kinda people who would've considered you enemies because you happened to buy a different console, or liked a different flavor of soda, or used a different processor in your PC.

It's ridiculous to base your friends and or prejudices on material choices or preferences.

We're all gamers to some degree and that should be all the commonality necessary.

I played WoW till I got sick of it, then I started playing this new game that came out when it had beta tests.. that game is FFXIV and I've been here ever since. I still have nigh 8 years of WoW under my belt though and MOST of those years were great. I dislike what WoW is now and would not go back.. but im still friends and play games with a lot of people who still play.

I play WoW (sometimes) and FFXIV (also sometimes), absolutely shocking right? It is to some people.

If you've lost friends because you played WoW then they're not the type of friends you want, they sound like manipulative jackasses and you're better off without them, real friends are cool with whatever you play. <3