Calling players bad because they're slow at improving...

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Outside of Extremes or Savage (or for some, Ultimate) watching a video guide is not needed. At all. The mechanics are simple enough to be learned on the fly, even if it takes a few attempts.

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My in-game experience would say otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Karthunk

My in-game experience would say otherwise.

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Your experience must be an anomaly of sorts then.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Outside of Extremes or Savage (or for some, Ultimate) watching a video guide is not needed. At all. The mechanics are simple enough to be learned on the fly, even if it takes a few attempts.

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And yet, people can't seem to get them.

Arguing about what defines a good or bad Player is completely pointless and even more so, getting upset about it.

Every Person holds a different opinion on what makes someone a good/bad player.

Personally, i would call someone a bad player already when he gets hit by the swing attack from the Kyklops in Anamnesis Anyder, because if you paid attention to the Game's attack patterns, you would know that every enemy in this game that performs a swing attack, it will always be a circle aoe with the NPC at its center.

But at the end of the day, does it really matter that much of what others think of you? It's not like youre never going to find a party again in this game just because you may or may not have messed something up.

That's my two cents on the matter at least.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Your experience must be an anomaly of sorts then.

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It's roulette experience. Not sure what else to say.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

Arguing about what defines a good or bad Player is completely pointless and even more so, getting upset about it.

Every Person holds a different opinion on what makes someone a good/bad player.

Personally, i would call someone a bad player already when he gets hit by the swing attack from the Kyklops in Anamnesis Anyder, because if you paid attention to the Game's attack patterns, you would know that every enemy in this game that performs a swing attack, it will always be a circle aoe with the NPC at its center.

But at the end of the day, does it really matter that much of what others think of you? It's not like youre never going to find a party again in this game just because you may or may not have messed something up.

That's my two cents on the matter at least.

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This is like saying a major league baseball player isn't bad if he has a .180 batting average because bad is subjective.

We all know if someone is performing terribly we just don't say anything because of feels and the possibility of getting banned.

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Originally Posted by Karthunk

It's roulette experience. Not sure what else to say.

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A few outliers here and there doesn't make this as big of an issue as some seem to believe it is. That is what else needs to be said.

I agree. Good thing this type of behavior is quite uncommon in FFXIV. Chances are, you won't see it again for a long, long time.

It's like that jerk who cuts you off on the freeway. Does it suck? Yeah it does. But, does it warrant more than a moment of frustration? Nope. It happens rarely; virtually never if you count all the cars that pass you without cutting you off.

So, I appreciate the sentiment, and I know you're probably just venting, but don't worry about this too much.

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Get off your high horse and let players enjoy the game the way they want to.

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This, quite unfortunately, includes allowing rude or mean people to be rude or mean. Your idea of enjoying the game, however pure and positive it may be, isn't the end-all-be-all for every player. If we are going to preach the idea of everyone enjoying the game the way they want to, we must include those whose ideas of "fun gameplay" differ vastly from ours. It is what it is. There's never going to be any group of anything on Earth where all of the participants enjoy some recreational activity exactly the same as the next person does.

The best we can do as individuals is either ignore the behavior, or report it if it crosses the line of acceptable behavior in the game. Beyond that, we may preach positivity, but the folks who are acting out on their internal pain aren't going to change because some random person on video game forums told them not to. Our efforts are better spent elsewhere; those people need real-world help from family, friends or professionals.

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well this is the big problem of ff14 community over all. people really will tell you that you are bad. its need to be done much more. yes until you are good you are bad. we all starting bad. in place of getting all cry baby over all try asking what you are doing wrong. try to improve and over some time you start being good. the community in this game better carry a total noob in level 80 dungeon that talk to him.