Neck slider when?

Screw it.

Giraffe race when?

Mix in an ass slider as well. The buttocks in this game are so flat you could lay a 2x12 from head to toe and not see a hump...

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Originally Posted by Pirana1

Mix in an ass slider as well. The buttocks in this game are so flat you could lay a 2x12 from head to toe and not see a hump...

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Yeah. I'd frankly just like my Miqo'te to gain about 15-20lbs in general, distributed over her hips, thighs, rear end, and a bit in the chest. I don't want her thicc - I just want something resembling a more typical female body size. And that includes, of course, having a butt.

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Originally Posted by Pirana1

Mix in an ass slider as well. The buttocks in this game are so flat you could lay a 2x12 from head to toe and not see a hump...

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This is like a staple of FF games, Lightning from FF13/ Lightning Returns basically had a concave butt.

Maybe they had to remove them because some have Pugophobia ( fear of butts ).

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

This is like a staple of FF games, Lightning from FF13/ Lightning Returns basically had a concave butt.

Maybe they had to remove them because some have Pugophobia ( fear of butts ).

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I'm not convinced that rear ends are quite as prioritized or appreciated in far eastern cultures as in the west. I could be wrong - but most of the Japanese manga and anime I've read over the years featured girls with astonishingly large chests and disappointingly tiny rear ends. I don't know if this is some product of societal tastes, or art styles, or what it is, but it's definitely noticeable. It's a pity because having a bottom is... well... a big part of being an attractive woman. It's an element of the natural feminine shape - girls have curves, both upstairs and down.

Miqote have that problem too, I was wearing a short haircut with a certain necklace that hovers right around the midldle which put emphasis on the long neck. Removed the necklace and now it looks fine again.

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Originally Posted by TeraRamis

I'm not convinced that rear ends are quite as prioritized or appreciated in far eastern cultures as in the west. I could be wrong - but most of the Japanese manga and anime I've read over the years featured girls with astonishingly large chests and disappointingly tiny rear ends. I don't know if this is some product of societal tastes, or art styles, or what it is, but it's definitely noticeable. It's a pity because having a bottom is... well... a big part of being an attractive woman. It's an element of the natural feminine shape - girls have curves, both upstairs and down.

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I think this is the case in the West too, only without the chest part.
Look at essentially every woman in modern games, they have the identical skinny body with small rear and chest.

These are basically the reactions that you get:

Give women curves and/ or emphasize feminine features = accused of oversexualization/ attention seeker ( and it's totally one-sided only against women and feminine features ).
Give women muscles = she looks like a man.
Give women a bit of tummy = she's ugly and disgusting.

Just making them skinny with no real curves seems to be the safe option.
Meanwhile with men you can do basically anything.

I do think it's a cultural thing tho, look at black culture in America and how women look there it's totally different.
They're a lot more curvy and not necessarily in a skinny sense but they're not really the ones who set the status quo in more mainstream culture.

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Miqote have that problem too, I was wearing a short haircut with a certain necklace that hovers right around the midldle which put emphasis on the long neck. Removed the necklace and now it looks fine again.

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Stop you're gonna make Miqo'Te look weird to me now too lol.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Stop you're gonna make Miqo'Te look weird to me now too lol.

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You should see how they crane their (long) neck with their default pose.

This thread reminded me of this The Onion video lol.

This is the character creation I demand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgowBLb4sKw

The game is desperately in need of an expanded and revamped character customisation system. Elves are usually one of the most popular picks in any fantasy game where they are available. That they aren't in FFXIV is a clear sign that there's major design flaws at play. It exists with other options, too - Highlander men being unable to have real eyebrows and more attractive facial features also lessens their overall appeal.