Implications of Social-Construct terms of "Humanity" and "Beast"

It's a sex thing. The human races all fancy each other, none of them are quite that into the beastmen though.

That's my theory anyway.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

It's a sex thing. The human races all fancy each other, none of them are quite that into the beastmen though.

That's my theory anyway.

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There is no internet in Eorzea so that may help your point, but SCH quests is kinda going that way, so... 34b i guess

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Enkidoh gonna give me memory whiplash making me remember Garden of Ruh'met and climbing those dang ole towers to get the Shards of Apathy, Envy, Cowardice, Pride, and Rage.

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Do not flare those old memories up anymore, please. I can't handle having to relive that horror...

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Originally Posted by GoldStarz

Yeah "man" and "human" applies to any playable Spoken race and a few additional races like Garleans.

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Kinda funny really because..if they were real we Humans would say "nah, you're not".

Off topic note, I usually think this song as the theme for the Roe race for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QU1nvuxaMA

"Humans" (playable races) are distinctly different from the beastmen. The Dragons, Omega, and the Ancients explicitly distinguish humans from non-human races. So far there is no evidence that human souls can reincarnate as anything other than another human.

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

"Humans" (playable races) are distinctly different from the beastmen. The Dragons, Omega, and the Ancients explicitly distinguish humans from non-human races. So far there is no evidence that human souls can reincarnate as anything other than another human.

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Maybe the beastmen are the "new life" seeded by Zodiark and the humans are fractured ancients. Probably not that straightforward but an interesting idea.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

I still think it's weird how Au'ra from the Steppe aren't considered beastmen when some of the beast tribes are a lot more integrated in modern society and more civilized than they are.

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Labels are such a funny thing in the FFXIV universe..esp since all of it doesn't matter for the Ascians.

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Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal

"Humans" (playable races) are distinctly different from the beastmen. The Dragons, Omega, and the Ancients explicitly distinguish humans from non-human races. So far there is no evidence that human souls can reincarnate as anything other than another human.

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Not really. If anything, terms like Humans or man, and beastmen are simply just social constructs made by the former or the Spoken if you will which doesn't matter for the Ancients at all. In fact, the Ascians see all of us as poor imitations of life regardless.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...encyclopaedia/

If by "human" you mean as in Humanoid or Human in appearance then yeah..but still, the Hrothgar are the most Beast like among the Spoken. These terms don't seem to exist in the Far East as far as I know. Hell, the Lalafells are called as Dwarves in the First, and they're considered as a Beastmen tribe there, rofl.

So the differentiation of the terms "human" and "beastman" are racist terms prescribed by the lore to create conflict that helps the real villains.

Those terms have already been rendered meaningless by story because the story has gone on to prove time and time again, that there is no difference between "human" and "beastman".

Those in this thread that continue to define the differentiation of those terms in the context of their social construct is continuing to perpetuate their racial connotations instead of learning what the story is trying to teach you.

Stop being racist.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Maybe the beastmen are the "new life" seeded by Zodiark and the humans are fractured ancients. Probably not that straightforward but an interesting idea.

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I highly doubt it honestly..because the term, Beastmen, is a term invented by the people of Ul'dah than anything else. Same thing for the Spoken which includes the Viera and the Hrothgar.