Endwalker benchmark is significantly better than Shadowbringers

Interesting, so here's mine:

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Endwalker Benchmark
Tested on: 7/13/2021 8:28:59
Score: 13378
Average Frame Rate: 91.06842
Minimum Frame Rate: 59
Performance: Very High
-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.
Loading Times by Scene
Scene #1 1.63 sec
Scene #2 2.975 sec
Scene #3 4.049 sec
Scene #4 1.468 sec
Scene #5 0.862 sec
Total Loading Time 10.984 sec

DAT:s20210713082859.dat

Screen Size: 2560x1440
Screen Mode: Borderless Windowed
DirectX Version: 11
Graphics Presets: Maximum

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers Benchmark
Tested on: 7/13/2021 8:20:35
Score: 13764
Average Frame Rate: 91.79177
Minimum Frame Rate: 36
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
Scene #1 1.277 sec
Scene #2 3.073 sec
Scene #3 3.107 sec
Scene #4 1.931 sec
Scene #5 1.027 sec
Total Loading Time 10.415 sec

DAT:s20210713082035.dat

Screen Size: 2560x1440
Screen Mode: Borderless Windowed
DirectX Version: 11
Graphics Presets: Maximum

System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (ver.10.0.19043 Build 19043)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor
32683.359MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(VRAM 8079 MB)

If you look at the minimum framerates there is a huge difference. I expect that EW is better able to utilize the hardware, and yet, it just so happens that my GPU doesn't punch high enough for it to skew the score. CPU wise we should be very close, XIV really only kicks at a single core so...

Hey try not to run that benchmark in windowed mode.

Windowed score:
https://i.imgur.com/BfEQClZ.jpg

Full Screen Score:
https://i.imgur.com/IeGHHfP.jpg

Also, since your running 4K, try changed the resolution to 4096 x 2160 or True 4K instead of 4K UHD. The game may look better for you as I feel the game is stretched at 16:9

I just made a post about this too.

Example:
https://i.imgur.com/kH8rcBx.png

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Originally Posted by Ath192

Hey try not to run that benchmark in windowed mode.

Windowed score:
https://i.imgur.com/BfEQClZ.jpg

Full Screen Score:
https://i.imgur.com/IeGHHfP.jpg

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As XIV has issues with fullscreen mode most everyone compares bench scores in borderless windowed, as that is the mode we play in. A benchmark isn't a benchmark if it does not apply to real world application.

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Originally Posted by Arrhin

As XIV has issues with fullscreen mode most everyone compares bench scores in borderless windowed, as that is the mode we play in. A benchmark isn't a benchmark if it does not apply to real world application.

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You're empirically wrong about what is being tested here. They are testing the difference between the benchmarks of SHB and EW, so regardless in what mode gets tested, if there is a real difference between both benchmarks it should be apparent in any mode tested. Given I ran tests and came with results that are absolutely impossible I have good reason to believe there is something wrong with the windowed mode in the EW benchmark. My full screen testing results are closer to what I've seen other players report playing at 4K maximum. Therefore, his data may not be correct if it is getting tested in windowed mode.

I also didn't know you spoke for the entire FFXIV community about the mode we play in. I can certainly attest you don't speak for me.

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Originally Posted by Ath192

You're empirically wrong about what is being tested here. They are testing the difference between the benchmarks of SHB and EW, so regardless in what mode gets tested, if there is a real difference between both benchmarks it should be apparent in any mode tested. Given I ran tests and came with results that are absolutely impossible I have good reason to believe there is something wrong with the windowed mode in the EW benchmark. My full screen testing results are closer to what I've seen other players report playing at 4K maximum. Therefore, his data may not be correct if it is getting tested in windowed mode.

I also didn't know you spoke for the entire FFXIV community about the mode we play in. I can certainly attest you don't speak for me.

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I know exactly what is being tested here, as you may have noticed I recommended recent runs with identical settings so we could in fact, compare the two without driver or game update changes skewing the results. And I speak based on the accepted norms in the community. The issue you speak of is outside this scope and is with full screen mode, not windowed, as it has been since the launch of the game, I'm sure this is a known quantity at this point. My testing showed a similar delta between windowed and full screen in both benchmarks. As for the different modes that is the very reason we attach the system info you see so that we know if it's apples to apples or not, or if people are cheesing the run with lowered settings.

Can you point to where is the certified document where the norms in the community are ratified and what body certified it? Or are you just making things sound more official to fit your narrative? Either way. My results speak for themselves and it would be ignorant of you to dismiss them as a possibility that is what is happening to OP here.

It is also counter productive to be dismissive when someone comes forth with information that may be of use as well.

It seems OP is experiencing what I experienced running the program windowed. For whatever reason. Meaning my claim is actually what could help solve the riddle as to why his scores differ so much.

So after reading comments on this topic, I decided to compare running the benchmark under borderless window and full screen. Interesting that fullscreen mode actually gave me a lower score than my borderless window mode. I was expecting full screen to have better result lol. Anyone why it is like this?

Borderless window: 11k
FullScreen: 8k

Thank you Garet. I do not know why, but since I game in 4K and have tried FS, borderless and windowed and experience minor hiccups in supremely demanding scenarios I am inclined to believe the lower score, as with 14K on my PC that seems about right, whereas the 22k score should not have me dipping below 60 FPS no matter if I’m in the middle of a hunt with 200 people or a 24 man raid with all effects popping off. But it is a mystery.