Please release 6.0 savage 1 week earlier than previous expansions

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05-15-2021, 08:06 PM
StriderShinryu

A delay until after New Years seems much more likely to me.
05-15-2021, 08:30 PM
Penthea

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Originally Posted by OneTrueMiqote

Yes, it's a pretty big deal in the raiding community, whether you are hardcore and want to go for that competitiveness or just have a static and require scheduling around the holidays.

No it's not, it's only a big deal for competitive teams. Those who aren't in any sort of race aren't going to be bothered by this too much or at all. I know my own team and others I know won't care much. We'll just delay raiding until after the Xmas holidays, just like how we have put raiding on hold every time Xmas was in the middle of our raid progress.

Sure many people won't be a fan of this if the schedule comes out the way you detailed in your first post, but it's not going to be as many people as you think who will be genuinely negatively affected by it.

However the pandemic has shaken up SE's release schedule a lot so I wouldn't be surprised if they do end up delaying the release of savage due to being aware of how the timing is far from ideal for western competitive players in the world race. I don't think it's a coincidence that before the pandemic we never had expansion releases or tier releases so close to or in the middle of a multinational holiday. Also they have specifically said the msq for 6.0 is going to be very long, so perhaps from that alone the savage release will be later than usual. I do hope either will be the case because while most raiders won't be hugely negatively impacted by those dates, I don't like the idea that the world race would be favouring those who don't celebrate Xmas or have families who understand their raid commitments.
05-16-2021, 04:24 AM
Kurando

If I remember correctly, wasn't one of the Eden patches (5.4?) released just a little before Christmas? So OP, you'll survive, it's really not that big of a deal.
05-16-2021, 04:30 AM
Jijifli

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

Assuming people are allowed to due to covid.

People did last Christmas. Don't see how it's not gonna happen this year too. *Shrug*
05-16-2021, 04:36 AM
Valkyrie_Lenneth

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Originally Posted by Penthea

No it's not, it's only a big deal for competitive teams. Those who aren't in any sort of race aren't going to be bothered by this too much or at all. I know my own team and others I know won't care much. We'll just delay raiding until after the Xmas holidays, just like how we have put raiding on hold every time Xmas was in the middle of our raid progress.

Sure many people won't be a fan of this if the schedule comes out the way you detailed in your first post, but it's not going to be as many people as you think who will be genuinely negatively affected by it.

However the pandemic has shaken up SE's release schedule a lot so I wouldn't be surprised if they do end up delaying the release of savage due to being aware of how the timing is far from ideal for western competitive players in the world race. I don't think it's a coincidence that before the pandemic we never had expansion releases or tier releases so close to or in the middle of a multinational holiday. Also they have specifically said the msq for 6.0 is going to be very long, so perhaps from that alone the savage release will be later than usual. I do hope either will be the case because while most raiders won't be hugely negatively impacted by those dates, I don't like the idea that the world race would be favouring those who don't celebrate Xmas or have families who understand their raid commitments.

Pretty much this. My group has always taken a break for holidays.
05-16-2021, 05:37 AM
Lanadra

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Originally Posted by OneTrueMiqote

With the typical timeline, normal raids are released 2 weeks after the expansion, and the savage tier is released 2 weeks after normal raids. This means raid comes out December 21st and if you don't clear by Friday night then you're raiding for Christmas or risking not clearing week 1. Delaying savage by 1 week is also not a solution as it then collides with when JP players spend time with family. So either it is delayed even further, or released earlier. Between the 2 choices, I personally think 3 weeks after the expansion is enough time for the players who want to raid day 1 or week 1 to complete MSQ, while still giving enough time for the hardcore raiders to complete it before Christmas.

What's more important to you, Christmas with family.. or a week 1 raid clear? Real life.. or a videogame?
05-16-2021, 06:20 AM
Sotaris

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

People did last Christmas. Don't see how it's not gonna happen this year too. *Shrug*

I can't speak for your country of residence but here where I live, many people including goverment bodies believed it be over by end of 2020. Here we have halfway into 2021 and only a 20% is vacinated in my country. It gonna take some time until a herd inmunity is reached.

So yes, we'll see if the world will have opened up pre-covid with travel restrictions being lifted etc.
05-16-2021, 06:21 AM
Sotaris

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Originally Posted by Lanadra

What's more important to you, Christmas with family.. or a week 1 raid clear? Real life.. or a videogame?

That's a interesting question. Same thing can be asked to those crying over not getting a house or lost it due to not playing the game for x reasons.
05-16-2021, 08:24 AM
ForteNightshade

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Originally Posted by Wolwosh

Oh no! Risk not clearing week 1 >_< The horror.
I wouldn't be able to live with myself if that would happen xD?

I'm absolutely no one would be upset if your preferred content (or the expansion as a whole) released the week of Christmas and you weren't forced to delay it.

There's no reason not to push Savage back a week or two. That way everybody gets to enjoy it in their preferred way.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

No it's not, it's only a big deal for competitive teams.

You aren't competitive if you aren't clearing within the first two weeks. At least within the context of hardcore prog. The entire purpose is clearly the tier fast. If you're only clearing 5-10-15 weeks following the tier drop. You aren't in the same competitive scene. Therefore, the release date will naturally impact you far less.

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Originally Posted by OneTrueMiqote

I've thought about that and normally timing wise, it would be ideal. The issue is that it would already be more than a year since the last savage tier for this current release date, and the thought of even more waiting is appalling for many people who care about this content. Another lesser issue would be that the expansion raid tier is already pretty close to the x.1 Ultimate, and this means a long period of lull followed by potentially too much content.

I sincerely doubt anyone in that scene will mind waiting an additional two weeks if it means not having to schedule around the Holidays. And considering the demographic Ultimate cater towards, that same crop of players will never feel there's "too much content." We're the ones always wanting more.
05-16-2021, 08:37 AM
Ilenya

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Originally Posted by Kurando

If I remember correctly, wasn't one of the Eden patches (5.4?) released just a little before Christmas? So OP, you'll survive, it's really not that big of a deal.

I imagine the first tier of a new raid (Savage) is a tad different, because for the second and third you can (usually) just ignore the story and go right into the raid. I don't do Savage raiding, but it'll be interesting to see how they deal with this, if they thought of it.

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