Another interview question about Ultimate

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Originally Posted by ItMe

If only Ultimates were important enough to dedicate a team to them.
Imagine a world where designing a few fights every expac was your main job and you just did assets or whatever on the side in your "free time."
Not a terribly realistic gripe IMO.

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Here something that even Yoshi P said in the interview, "Regarding working on future Ultimate trials, we came to the conclusion that we needed to work in a more planned and efficient way."

He admits that that the current way of doing it this way is not that great for productivity and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true across the whole development team itself since a good majority of the team itself isn't devoted to battle content.

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Originally Posted by Maltothoris

Here something that even Yoshi P said in the interview, "Regarding working on future Ultimate trials, we came to the conclusion that we needed to work in a more planned and efficient way."

He admits that that the current way of doing it this way is not that great for productivity and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true across the whole development team itself since a good majority of the team itself isn't devoted to battle content.

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Right.
Their process can def be improved.
But expecting them to have a team dedicated to Ultimates is a pipe dream. Nothing wrong with dreaming, but it's not appropriate to "fault them" for this.

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Originally Posted by Maltothoris

Here something that even Yoshi P said in the interview, "Regarding working on future Ultimate trials, we came to the conclusion that we needed to work in a more planned and efficient way."

He admits that that the current way of doing it this way is not that great for productivity and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true across the whole development team itself since a good majority of the team itself isn't devoted to battle content.

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It would make sense. On more than one occasion they have implemented something that was clearly not thought all the way through. It'd be great to see them improve the development process as a whole.

My issue is that it isn't just Ultimate content that is being cut and the scaling back of content has been happening since before Covid-19 entered the picture.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

My issue is that it isn't just Ultimate content that is being cut and the scaling back of content has been happening since before Covid-19 entered the picture.

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Pretty much. They've been cutting corners for awhile, it was just more evident in Shadowbringers, at least to me. If they plan to keep the game going for as long as they say they want to, something's gotta give.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Pretty much. They've been cutting corners for awhile, it was just more evident in Shadowbringers, at least to me. If they plan to keep the game going for as long as they say they want to, something's gotta give.

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Yup. It doesn't help that you have to go digging for information if you want to keep up to date, either. A recent interview, for example, revealed that we won't be getting a Beast Tribe finale quest in 5.5 despite it being a tradition in past expansions. It might seem like a minor thing to many people, though it's just another bit of content thrown to one side.

I'm hoping and expecting that 5.5 and 6.0 will be good. I just...really want more stuff outside of the MSQ's.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

A recent interview, for example, revealed that we won't be getting a Beast Tribe finale quest in 5.5 despite it being a tradition in past expansions. It might seem like a minor thing to many people, though it's just another bit of content thrown to one side.

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Wait, really?
I thought they just reaffirmed we weren't getting another beast tribe in Shadow Bringers.
Can you throw me a link to the interview you were reading?
We must be looking at different translations... or something?

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Wait, really?
I thought they just reaffirmed we weren't getting another beast tribe in Shadow Bringers.
Can you throw me a link to the interview you were reading?
We must be looking at different translations... or something?

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No Allied Beast Tribe Quests this time around.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ion_by_ikn111/

It makes sense, you just can't have anyone QA an ultimate. You need real raiders, whom are battle designers, who can do above savage level content, blind, and then in this pandemic do it remotely like a real raid group does. It just adds up to more time spent to do this kind of stuff remotely versus in the same office.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Pretty much. They've been cutting corners for awhile, it was just more evident in Shadowbringers, at least to me. If they plan to keep the game going for as long as they say they want to, something's gotta give.

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I think it's more evident to people who skip the relic questlines and the crafting, gathering and RP content, which is where the resources seemed to have gone to.