Unpopular Opinion: SE Is Not Obligated To Add New Jobs Every Expansion

They don't have to add anything except the stuff they want to; which just so happens to normally be stuff people ask for other the years.

Why is this even a conversation? Where'd this come from all of a sudden?

I'd actually be okay with them skipping adding jobs for now and fleshing out more character creation and race options for Viera/Hrothgar, etc.
But then its two different dev teams that likely work on these differing aspects.

I'm not sure if people will buy the new expansion if there are no new jobs.

It wouldn't be a big problem as long as they set expectations ahead of time.

Like if they announce the next new job and say "this might be the last new job" or "we're thinking about not adding jobs for the next expansion" so that we don't go into it expecting more jobs next time, then that's fine. But if they didn't do that then people would be expecting jobs, and would be rightly upset if they tried to surprise us with bad news.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

It wouldn't be a big problem as long as they set expectations ahead of time.

Like if they announce the next new job and say "this might be the last new job" or "we're thinking about not adding jobs for the next expansion" so that we don't go into it expecting more jobs next time, then that's fine. But if they didn't do that then people would be expecting jobs, and would be rightly upset if they tried to surprise us with bad news.

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They gave everyone a heads up that Hrothgar and Viera can only wear certain headgear and would have limitations as such and every week or news update there are people complaining how they are "unfinished". Do you think people will have a better reaction to this? Any perceived issue will be met with "they canceled making a new job for THIS!?!".

Honestly I'd be happy if they skimped out on adding new jobs if they worked on restoring the class identity to every job akin to how the current iteration of BLM is everything the job is meant to be while also being powerful and getting a mitigation tool it doesn't deserve.

But then again they wouldn't give us a new healer until after they finished gutting the current ones, so maybe it's best to not expect competence from SE when it comes to job design

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Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur

They gave everyone a heads up that Hrothgar and Viera can only wear certain headgear and would have limitations as such and every week or news update there are people complaining how they are "unfinished". Do you think people will have a better reaction to this? Any perceived issue will be met with "they canceled making a new job for THIS!?!".

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The problem there was that they didn't say "Hrothgar and Viera will NEVER be able to wear headgear", and also after they initially announced that most headgear wouldn't work they went and made a bunch more work. They did not properly manage expectations.

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Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur

They gave everyone a heads up that Hrothgar and Viera can only wear certain headgear and would have limitations as such and every week or news update there are people complaining how they are "unfinished". Do you think people will have a better reaction to this? Any perceived issue will be met with "they canceled making a new job for THIS!?!".

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To be fair, when you become complacent in accepting laziness from a company, you get the current iteration of Pokemon where even though it's the worst game they've put out so far, it's also one of their best if not their best selling game.

It's one thing for them to set expectations, but it's another for them to set low expectations so that they can get out of making completed products/content while also reaping the monetary rewards of said incomplete product, which is where the 1 gender and no hat Viera and Hrothgar fall.

Without what feels like major compensation (may read as obvious gains from loss) for the lack of new jobs then I think I'd be rather unimpressed if they chose to not add new jobs. To add... Limited jobs, to me, are not a satisfactory replacement concept (advanced, aka both- fit of course). Assuming blue concept doesn't continue to evolve. The premise itself, not speaking levels as that's obvious- PF focus designed jobs is a thumbs-down from me, fine to make here and there for diversity of content, but I won't be excited to see them either and so if they act as the replacement of full jobs in the future I'd not be happy about.

Fair if FFXIV enters maintenance mode though and a new MMO is to be out.

There are also a few more job concepts I'd like to see in this game (or at least in some future FF mmo). Assuming it's not the next one coming... Which it could be lol.

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Originally Posted by Hank_Hotspur

They gave everyone a heads up that Hrothgar and Viera can only wear certain headgear and would have limitations as such and every week or news update there are people complaining how they are "unfinished". Do you think people will have a better reaction to this? Any perceived issue will be met with "they canceled making a new job for THIS!?!".

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To be fair, they also said they intended to work on it throughout the expansion to increase the amount as time went on. They haven't, which is why people keep bringing it up. They have a habit of saying things in a roundabout manner or saying things they ultimately don't deliver on. Just look at the Glamour Dresser. We're still waiting on plates working outside sanctuaries, adding more of them altogether, increasing the storage space (again) and making it a housing item. And we've been waiting well over a year now without a single mention of it.