SCH, Energy Drain, and 6.0

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Originally Posted by EaMett

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!

Sigh... We're screwed, aren't we?

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been that way for Sb and Shb.

I am not gonna be surprised if we find out sage is made out of chunks of the other 3 healers. Ast's noct sect, Sch's aetherflow system and whm's old self buffing playstyle.
Ast and Whm chunks are already confirmed in any event

This is their last chance to get it right with healers. They always said Ast was the problem child because it could go either regens or shields so it was hard to balance the healers. Now they won’t have that excuse anymore. If healers are still not fun and unique then we will know. My expectations aren’t high but I’m hoping the healers are getting the biggest rework this expansion. It’s our turn now. We’ve waited long enough.

They should just make it an instant gcd with the same potency as boil.

Probably a unpopular opinion, but i hope the Fairy will get a bit more attention skill- and potencywise at the exchange of being killable again (along with a revive timer) to keep things more interesting instead of having the Fairy constantly on autofollow on every occasion you summon her.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

This is their last chance to get it right with healers. They always said Ast was the problem child because it could go either regens or shields so it was hard to balance the healers. Now they won’t have that excuse anymore. If healers are still not fun and unique then we will know. My expectations aren’t high but I’m hoping the healers are getting the biggest rework this expansion. It’s our turn now. We’ve waited long enough.

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Not gonna happen; they've shown their hand long ago, we know they don't care about healer's, otherwise we wouldnt be where we are today.

Itll be the same thing all over again, I don't know why anyone is expecting them to care now.

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Originally Posted by FoxCh40s

Not gonna happen; they've shown their hand long ago, we know they don't care about healer's, otherwise we wouldnt be where we are today.

Itll be the same thing all over again, I don't know why anyone is expecting them to care now.

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i don't think its expecting them to care, I think its expecting them to do something on accident that will make things better and mix up what players want with what SE want/think healers play thus accidentally making healers less shit

My hopes are, if Sage becomes the "selfish" self buffing Shield Healer, as it's been revealed in the Announcement, that Scholar will see its Support/Utility expanded to have it mirror AST as the Shield Healer Support oriented counterpart. I want more Stratagems, I want more debuffs/buffs to manage during downtime.

I've always liked the idea of SCH having two modes from FFXI, one grimmoire for Enfeebling/Damage, the other for Buffing/Healing. In FFXIV we had the fairies that acted in that way, kinda. Hopefully we go back to our summon being meaningful and being tied to significant abilities now that the final opportunity has come to detach ACN/SMN from SCH.

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Originally Posted by Anhra

Probably a unpopular opinion, but i hope the Fairy will get a bit more attention skill- and potencywise at the exchange of being killable again (along with a revive timer) to keep things more interesting instead of having the Fairy constantly on autofollow on every occasion you summon her.

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I just wantthe fairy to be targettable again. a well placed fairy used to be a godsend to bounce deployment tactics off.

As for energy drain and unused stacks they could quite easily just let aetherflow restore more MP based on the stacks you have.. 0 stacks. 20% mp on aetherflow. 1 stack 25% mp on aetherflow. 2 stacks 30% mp on aetherflow..

The fairy guage definitely needs some love though.

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Originally Posted by GrimGale

Hopefully we go back to our summon being meaningful and being tied to significant abilities now that the final opportunity has come to detach ACN/SMN from SCH.

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SCH and SMN have already been separated. Because of how the system is, they cannot fully separate SCH from ACN because it would require too much of a rework. But as far as gameplay is concerned, the separation has already happened. That's why the only ability they share now is Resurrection.

What I expect from the 6.0 Barrier Healers is systems that reward proactive shielding and healing. I wouldn't be surprised if Aetherflow stops primarily being a healing resource and ends up primarily a damage resource and Aetherflow generation is tied more to successfully shielding attacks. Not saying Lustrate, Sacred Soil, Indomitability and Excognition would go away, but that Aetherflow is more intended to be be used with Energy Drain and other DpS spenders with most of the healing uses being more for emergency situations.

How I could see things working:

• Max number of Aetherflow stacks increased to about 6
• Aetherflow(ability) would still generate 3 stacks when used.
• Adloquium's Galvanize and Catalyze each give an Aetherflow stack when they break (but not when they fall off).
• Deployment Tactics Galvanize shields maintain the 100% generation chance of Adloquium.
• Succor and Consolidation's shields would have a 20% chance of giving an Aetherflow stack when they break.
• Seraphic Veil shields would have a 50% chance of generating Aetherflow
• Excognition still costs one Aetherflow stack, but gives 2 stacks when it is triggered.
• Fey Union gives an Aetherflow each time it's target takes damage equal to 30% of their max hp.
• Sacred Soil has a chance of giving an Aetherflow when someone under its effect takes damage equal to 30% of their max hp,
• Dissipation would still give 3 stacks at the cost of loosing the fairy for 30s.
• New capstone gcd spell with a 60s or 90s cooldown that consumes all current Aetherflow stacks to deal damage based on Aetherflow spent

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Originally Posted by Anhra

Probably a unpopular opinion, but i hope the Fairy will get a bit more attention skill- and potencywise at the exchange of being killable again (along with a revive timer) to keep things more interesting instead of having the Fairy constantly on autofollow on every occasion you summon her.

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Not going to happen as pets being targetable/damageable causes more problems than they are worth design side. Tankbusters, Raidwides, and Shared damage attacks have had problematic interactions with pets since 2.0 requiring pet interaction exceptions to be added to pretty much every individual action. Them being non-targets makes things less problematic and easier for the designers.