Can enemies PLEASE stop chasing us for miles?

This is why I use mounts, get in, kill the thing I need, get out - also be 10 levels above the enemy if possible.

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Originally Posted by NOKANAN

Surely it's obvious how annoying it is, and how hard it makes playing? Trying to join a skirmish in Bozja, or needing to mount up/teleport, and an enemy you JUST BRUSHED by absolutely miles ago is STILL taking chunks out of you. They could just chase you for a normal distance like in Warcraft? Why has it been designed so frustratingly?

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People are complaining that FF14 is not dangerous enough.
When SE decides to make it dangerous in a side context, people likes you pop up.
I guess game company will always lose

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

People are complaining that FF14 is not dangerous enough.
When SE decides to make it dangerous in a side context, people likes you pop up.
I guess game company will always lose

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People complain its not hard enough, not casual enough, too story driven, too this, too that, to racist (white characters), to sexist (no male viera) .... People will never be happy.

Could be interesting if leash range was related to monster type and enmity gathered (thoughts can be applied outside of Eureka content as well). Walk by a goblin, goblin tosses bomb and immediately gives up. Fight goblin for a while, goblin chases you for a while. Fight tonberry for a while, then you try to run- tonberry casts sprint and stabs you. Tiger runs faster (like FFXI), and will chase you down for a general leash range that is nearly independent of any enmity gathered. Skeletons have smaller aggro radius but if you're weakened it increases to above average. Ghosts at night will blink and do aoe attacks more often.

So most brushes would have monsters give up fairly quickly, with some fun exceptions. Monsters you've riled up however would be far more into chasing you, which makes sense and kind of gives it a fun story. Especially when you imagine the system working together- you make a dragon mad and get it to half health, start running because it's too hard, dragon starts trying to divebomb you and do trails of fire (unique chase AI), you are running wildly while dodging fireball aoes, you brush against a few monsters which aggro slightly but don't ruin the whole experience (scare you but not turn into a whole new train), you see some trappers who will net you if you aggro them and have sprint on so you avoid that section, dragon gives up.. You survive. Good story, but not really a 'mean' story. A 'mean' story could also be good but I think not as great choice given the climate type of this game (generally casual friendly), so like in a mean story everything is chasing you until you literally load another map like in FFXI lol (also the story where you are for more likely to die and 'waste' time having to dodge everything and turn a short run into a marathon).

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Originally Posted by SavishSalacious

People complain its not hard enough, not casual enough, too story driven, too this, too that, to racist (white characters), to sexist (no male viera) .... People will never be happy.

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No, there are people complains about entire FF14 world space is not as dangerous as FF11 where mob do aggro and kill you.
Those played FF11 should still remember that sneak oil is a must when you travel in FF11 world space
Just search history of this forum

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

No, there are people complains about entire FF14 world space is not as dangerous as FF11 where mob do aggro and kill you.
Those played FF11 should still remember that sneak oil is a must when you travel in FF11 world space
Just search history of this forum

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Maybe the game should go back to ... Wait people will complain.

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Originally Posted by NOKANAN

Surely it's obvious how annoying it is, and how hard it makes playing? Trying to join a skirmish in Bozja, or needing to mount up/teleport, and an enemy you JUST BRUSHED by absolutely miles ago is STILL taking chunks out of you. They could just chase you for a normal distance like in Warcraft? Why has it been designed so frustratingly?

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Seriously? This is already to easy.

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Originally Posted by Malia_Chan

Seriously? This is already to easy.

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It's not about making it easier. Just less frustrating. The long leash distance does not make mozja enemies difficult or dangerous. Just frustrating. They're still trivial outdoor mobs in the way of the content people are trying to do. If they were actually dangerous, like say the sleeping dragons in Eureka, that'd be one thing. But they aren't, with the exception of the 'rare mob' guys you see now and then. They just waste time.

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Originally Posted by Ransom

On the one hand, yes, it's annoying. On the other hand...

Final Fantasy Eleven would like a word.

Imagine that mobs don't EVER stop chasing until you exit the zone or die.
Now imagine that they pick up potentially dozens of adds, with even normally non-aggro mobs of their type
joining in the chase and also NEVER giving up.
Now imagine that, when the chase is over, they don't go non-aggro while they quickly run home, but instead
slooooowly walk home while remaining aggressive the entire time.

There was a place called Crawler's Nest that was regularly shut down for (real life) days on end from the
murder swarm of over a hundred high-level crawlers just inside the door.

So yes, it's totally annoying, but it could be worse.

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As I mentioned, Everquest was like this too, and it actually made the game more fun. Having to run out of a zone to avoid a train of monsters was actually better in my opinion (and reminds me of Fansy the bard who trolled people near the docks in Oasis).

The biggest difference (as I also mentioned) is that guards at towns in Everquest were generally powerful and would attack monsters that got near so you didn’t have the issues like in Bozja where you run by friendly NPCs into a camp but still have monsters trailing you. It’s like they implemented only part of these mechanics from other games but missed a critical other portion and that has made it annoying.

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Originally Posted by DoH

As I mentioned, Everquest was like this too, and it actually made the game more fun. Having to run out of a zone to avoid a train of monsters was actually better in my opinion (and reminds me of Fansy the bard who trolled people near the docks in Oasis).

The biggest difference (as I also mentioned) is that guards at towns in Everquest were generally powerful and would attack monsters that got near so you didn’t have the issues like in Bozja where you run by friendly NPCs into a camp but still have monsters trailing you. It’s like they implemented only part of these mechanics from other games but missed a critical other portion and that has made it annoying.

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A lot would need to change to make this more engaging in FFXIV. For starters, slowing mounts so that you can't easily outrun everything. Also making enemies a lot more deadly so that random mobs are actually a threat 1 on 1. Having mobs chase you all over the zone on its own wouldn't bring back that same feeling. And would just open up the door to potential griefers kiting mobs around that people need for quests etc.