What ilvl will the 5.35 relics be?

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Originally Posted by Avalon304

Would it? Id think the extra point of weapon damage from the i505 Eden weapon would likely make it better, even if the relic had 5 slots.

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probably would depend on substats since all this tier weapons are min maxed essentially besides from healers would be hard but 3 extra melds to Direct hit could be handy for tanks
considering the idealized helmet for PLD a i480 helmet is just as strong as the i500 tank helmets you can see how much extra melds can make a difference.

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Originally Posted by Avalon304

Im personally hoping for i500, but Im expecting i495.

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i495 with 5 slots would be good enough.
Better than a 2 slot i500 weapon, but just behind the i505 from savage.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

probably would depend on substats since all this tier weapons are min maxed essentially besides from healers would be hard but 3 extra melds to Direct hit could be handy for tanks
considering the idealized helmet for PLD a i480 helmet is just as strong as the i500 tank helmets you can see how much extra melds can make a difference.

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Weapon damage tends to be king. I'd imagine a 500 relic might be BiS for healers, since the huge chunk of Piety on the Eden weapon is essentially 0 stat, but other classes will lean to the +5ilv.

If the relic is equal to or even better than Eden, I see no issue with it. We'll only be getting half a patch at best to enjoy the relic before the next tier is released and pushes it back to glamour status for the time being.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Weapon damage tends to be king. I'd imagine a 500 relic might be BiS for healers, since the huge chunk of Piety on the Eden weapon is essentially 0 stat, but other classes will lean to the +5ilv.

If the relic is equal to or even better than Eden, I see no issue with it. We'll only be getting half a patch at best to enjoy the relic before the next tier is released and pushes it back to glamour status for the time being.

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Agreed, I think anyone who cared that someone else had another way to get their weapon has had their 505 for 4-6 months now.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Weapon damage tends to be king. I'd imagine a 500 relic might be BiS for healers, since the huge chunk of Piety on the Eden weapon is essentially 0 stat, but other classes will lean to the +5ilv.

If the relic is equal to or even better than Eden, I see no issue with it. We'll only be getting half a patch at best to enjoy the relic before the next tier is released and pushes it back to glamour status for the time being.

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Pretty much.

ilvl is king for most all jobs, from a design PoV people have had like over half a year to get the tome weapons that can now be upgraded to ilvl500 without savage fights. Tomes prob hella close to being unlocked so people can just grind out the 1000 needed for a weapon in no time. An ex fight can drop ilvl495 cause it's an easy path to getting an upgrade or "starter weapon" for raids if you haven't been farming savage til recently.

A 5 slot ilvl500 relic would make it the 2nd best weapon compared to the eden weapons for a few weeks before the next tier of savage raids and tome weapons and so on start the gear treadmill all over again.

Plus, where we are now is basically Anemos if we compare it to last expac. From the end of Anemos to the end of Pagos your weapon goes up 15 ilvls, not 10.

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Originally Posted by Duskane

i500 2 slots since i500 with 5 slots would most likely make it better than edens depending on substats of course

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Ilvl might work like that for certain other pieces, but not weapons. For weapons, Weapon damage is king as its basically the equivalent of several hundred main stat, or the equivalent of almost a thousand of any given offstat. These relics will not be bis.

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

Ilvl might work like that for certain other pieces, but not weapons. For weapons, Weapon damage is king as its basically the equivalent of several hundred main stat, or the equivalent of almost a thousand of any given offstat. These relics will not be bis.

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Some sets for AST and SCH already use the Augmented Crystarium weapon simply because the 505 ones have godawful substats, so adding 3 more meld slots can most certainly make them BiS depending on the substats.
Now you could argue that weapon damage isn't quite as important on healers than on any other job but that remains to be seen.

Either 495 or 500 at best.

The real question is: will they be shiny?

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Originally Posted by Jennah

The real question is: will they be shiny?

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There was a datamined thread on Reddit a few weeks ago with an imgur link to all of the Bozjan weapon upgrades, all with with their own glow. You could probably still find it on r/ffxiv.

EDIT: found the link https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...eapons_bozjan/