Dragonspine, am I doing it wrong?

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

Are you using Identical Cast?

The macro is interesting, are they actually all 13 sec bites? Seemed to remember it as more like 12-15 but could be wrong if you're not getting any misses.

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From what I've found, so far, they start biting around 6-7 seconds and most bite before 13 seconds. I can be wrong, since I've only gotten 30 so far (haven't done it for a couple of days). I will try the 25 second suggestion (from another player) later.

I have an alt with worse stats than yours, fishes enough each week for the challenge log.

Usually 10 - 12 dragonspines / session. WAY less than an hour.

My advice. Drop the macro, pay attention. If netflix is that important tune your macro and accept the lower catch rate.

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

I have an alt with worse stats than yours, fishes enough each week for the challenge log.

Usually 10 - 12 dragonspines / session. WAY less than an hour.

My advice. Drop the macro, pay attention. If netflix is that important tune your macro and accept the lower catch rate.

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I have Bipolar Disorder, and my hands are kind of shaking a little in addition. Not easy to keep up with modern games, so I prefer macros when things are time sensitive.

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Originally Posted by Shadygrove

I have an alt with worse stats than yours, fishes enough each week for the challenge log.

Usually 10 - 12 dragonspines / session. WAY less than an hour.

My advice. Drop the macro, pay attention. If netflix is that important tune your macro and accept the lower catch rate.

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And why are people commenting as if my stats are bad? I have the best gear available in this patch, and everything is overmelded.

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Originally Posted by Angelhearth

And why are people commenting as if my stats are bad? I have the best gear available in this patch, and everything is overmelded.

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That player was saying that "Their alt (Shadygrove's Alt) has worst stats that you (Angelhearth)"
They did not say that you have bad stats.

And the point they were making is that the target fish can be caught with less than optimal stats, which is true... They can be caught with gear and stats that was previous patch less than optimal.

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Originally Posted by Kirika-

That player was saying that "Their alt (Shadygrove's Alt) has worst stats that you (Angelhearth)"
They did not say that you have bad stats.

And the point they were making is that the target fish can be caught with less than optimal stats, which is true... They can be caught with gear and stats that was previous patch less than optimal.

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That was the second or third time someone mentioned it, so I was starting to wonder, because, so far, no one has said, you have more than high enough stats, or, your stats are to high, and because of that you get more bites from other fish.

Well, while high stats help with most fish, rare "big fish" and quest-only types are generally just on a set RNG table.
Meaning, if you do have the minimum required stats for the fish to be in the loot-pool, and you have the correct bait/time of day/weather/location/active quest/any-other-variable that effects the direct ability to catch said fish, then that fish will be in the RNG loot pool but subject solely to it's fixed values and RNG.
The fish's "hidden stats" come into play of which we can only theory about it's effect, meaning, lets say for example, the target fish has a "hidden stat" of it has a 70% chance on a bite to get away, so no matter how high your FSH job level is over the fish's level or how high your Gather/Perception/GP is, 70% of the time it will always get away.
It gets really annoying on old ARR content "big fish" which have an on bite fixed value to get away (among other hidden stats), generally always getting away it seems, when you should be the god of the fishing pole having stats a couple thousand points over what is required to get a bite from one.

However, that is one of the reasons that the FSH job is closer to real life, as while stats help to unlock the fish in question, it really boils down to if the fish will let you catch it.

What I ended up doing, and that seems to give the best result, is to dress up in Dwarven Cotton/Swallowskin/Lignum Vitae. Mend max GP and nothing else. Wait until GP has maxed out and you have a HQ Cordial ready. Use Patience II followed by the HQ Cordial. Never try to reel in a !!. Use Precision Hookset on ! and Identical cast when enough GP + enough GP to use Precision Hookset once more. This method, with the mentioned gear, got me a regular 3 HQ Dragonspine, sometimes even 4 or 5, a few times 2, per Patience II. Using my regular gear seems to get me unwanted fish too much. RNG is RNG, sure, but with too high stats you seem to get the unwanted fish too many times. I have not taken into account the weather, as this is hard for a single person to do, with so low drop rate, but I don't think the weather has any influence, neither time of day.

Stats don't affect what fish bite in a pool. All fish in a given spot will bite at the same rate no matter what your stats are. Gathering only determines whether or not the fish will get away when it does bite, and perception only affects HQ rate. The only thing that affects what fish will bite are bait, time, and weather. Wearing lower level gear just gimps your stats for no benefit (higher spiritbonding speed is still a valid reason to do it, though).

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

Stats don't affect what fish bite in a pool. All fish in a given spot will bite at the same rate no matter what your stats are. Gathering only determines whether or not the fish will get away when it does bite, and perception only affects HQ rate. The only thing that affects what fish will bite are bait, time, and weather. Wearing lower level gear just gimps your stats for no benefit (higher spiritbonding speed is still a valid reason to do it, though).

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I thought so too, but I tried it as a last resort, because the rate of getting the damned fish was so extremely low.