5.3 Preliminary Patch Note

I guess the title screen display might be set by something deep-seated that they can momentarily trick but can't permanently overwrite? There doesn't seem any reason to deliberately make it temporary.

I hope it at least sticks when switching between characters without exiting to the launcher.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

Unless people are doing FATEs the Coincounter might be the first Cyclops many players encounter in XIV so I don't really see the harm in adding this. Who is running AV for the enjoyment of Coincounter's iconic no indicator attacks anyway?

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It teaches sprouts a valuable lesson. Pay attention to boss' movements and attack names.
Let's add telegraphs to Chimera's Ram's Voice/Dragon's Voice, while we're at it, eh?

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Originally Posted by Flay_wind

It teaches sprouts a valuable lesson. Pay attention to boss' movements and attack names.
Let's add telegraphs to Chimera's Ram's Voice/Dragon's Voice, while we're at it, eh?

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The telegraph also teaches sprouts, more clearly even, the difference between his swing and swipe. I mean I'm not for or against this because it's literally so insignificant, but how many times a day were you running AV where this is some great loss?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I guess the title screen display might be set by something deep-seated that they can momentarily trick but can't permanently overwrite? There doesn't seem any reason to deliberately make it temporary.

I hope it at least sticks when switching between characters without exiting to the launcher.

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I suppose I'm complaining a bit much. I mean, at least we get it at all.Dang spaghetti code. lol

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Originally Posted by Yencat

The telegraph also teaches sprouts, more clearly even, the difference between his swing and swipe. I mean I'm not for or against this because it's literally so insignificant, but how many times a day were you running AV where this is some great loss?

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Well, i assume from the patch notes, that all other cyclops type enemies are not affected. So, in essence this change accomplishes nothing really.
P.S. My evil little black lala heart has to get kicks somewhere. Sometimes that just happens to be sprouts getting one shot by Swing.

I hope the serious fox becomes a minion down the line.

It would be a disappointment for the most majestic of foxes to just be a NPC.

Re: Coin Counter

It is what it is, but I think it would have been a cool mechanic to have him start with indicators, have a text box where he reconsiders his target, then another that essentially says “to he## with your indicators! Eat this!” <show indicator shatter as his cast bar continues to fill>

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Originally Posted by Flay_wind

Well, i assume from the patch notes, that all other cyclops type enemies are not affected. So, in essence this change accomplishes nothing really.

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It teaches those that want to learn from it how to handle a Cyclops if this is the first time they see one, people who don't want to learn won't learn telegraph or no.

Just for the record though, I agree that it accomplishes very little as there's not enough Cyclopes or un-telegraphed attacks for this to be a teaching moment. But it's AV, no one really likes running it anyway (if there's an avid AV lover out there though, I support you.) so "getting up in arms" about this feels a bit strange. They could remove the whole dungeon and no one (save for that lone AV lover, I know you're out there) would bat an eye.

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Originally Posted by kaynide

Re: Coin Counter

It is what it is, but I think it would have been a cool mechanic to have him start with indicators, have a text box where he reconsiders his target, then another that essentially says “to he## with your indicators! Eat this!” <show indicator shatter as his cast bar continues to fill>

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That could be cool. Get the nier raid team on it to make it happen. Custom "indicator shatters!" animation and meta commentary. lol

I'm glad they're adding indicators personally. I've run that thing a lot and still can't remember the attacks with 100% accuracy. Yet I can remember the name and backstory of the most inconsequential NPCs. Its just how my brain works.

Like, it doesn't really matter. Its just a single boss in one dungeon. And they still have the mechanics in other instances. But I'm not complaining they've added it. B/c ~50% of the time I get hit by him, so I also kinda hate that boss. lol

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Originally Posted by Yencat

It teaches those that want to learn from it how to handle a Cyclops if this is the first time they see one, people who don't want to learn won't learn telegraph or no.

Just for the record though, I agree that it accomplishes very little as there's not enough Cyclopes or un-telegraphed attacks for this to be a teaching moment. But it's AV, no one really likes running it anyway (if there's an avid AV lover out there though, I support you.) so "getting up in arms" about this feels a bit strange. They could remove the whole dungeon and no one (save for that lone AV lover, I know you're out there) would bat an eye.

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Thing is, is that as of this current moment running AV with a composition of BLU's is legitimately the fastest way to get Moogle Tomes in the entire game. It takes 3-5 minutes total with a complete BLU party and can net you the entire bevy of items in under a few hours. Even if you don't have any BLU to run it with, it's still one of the faster dungeons available for that purpose and this goes doubly so when the tower climb isn't available to earn Tomes from.

I'd bet you a good deal of money that this change was made because enough people complained about not understanding Coincutter's mechanics whilst doing said grind. Particularly players who skipped the ARR Fate train experience and thus never got to face off with a few of the other early game Cyclops enemies this game has to offer. The change is so odd, so late, and yet so specific that I can't imagine there wasn't a deluge of complaints behind it.