No Level Down for next Relic please.

I have to say I agree with Shinklet. I liked having to talk to people or that mobs were a threat again. The normal overworld is anything but.

It’s going to have a new zone where you do quests and a boss fight that summons another boss. One party member will have to leave to group to safety while the others stack. The DRK weapon looks like a square tip. The weapon glows different colors.

They did mention wanting to have another Baldesion Arsenal-like experience somewhere down the line.

I'm hoping they'll just make it so there's no limit on how many people can participate for the sake of avoiding any drama like there was with the portals.

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Originally Posted by lolicon09

To be fair, losing xp is a pretty nice way to make you think twice about what you're doing, and actually care about staying alive. That was something i did like about Eureka

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I'm between two opinions there honestly. I did like the sense of cautiousness it forced in a game where nothing is dangerous. The teaming up was okay and the socializing was the best I had in this game. I remember a player that was the designated "Ambulance" that would go raise anyone that asked with a double seater mount and escort them back to safety.

What I did not like was "RNG difficulty", namely quest locations filled with mobs where you had to wait minutes for an opening to get there (and potentially get one shot at the end of your cutscene), in Pagos among the griffons and in Pyros among the wolves especially.

Kinda hoping they double down on the old-school MMO aspects of this instance. Make it freaking insufferable to me, like they did with Pagos. Bring in the pain.

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Originally Posted by lolicon09

To be fair, losing xp is a pretty nice way to make you think twice about what you're doing, and actually care about staying alive. That was something i did like about Eureka

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It was fine. I took multiple toons through Eureka and BA and only de-leveled once in the main zones. BA was even more challenging and as a result even more fun. If someone died a healer had to use Sacrifice which meant they had to die (commit suicide) and hope their other logo Remembered would proc and res them back to life. Some of the most fun I've ever had in this game and I've recently took another character through the content to get her WHM relic.

Yeah levelling down is what always kept me from stepping foot in Eureka in the first place

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Originally Posted by Hazama999

Kinda hoping they double down on the old-school MMO aspects of this instance. Make it freaking insufferable to me, like they did with Pagos. Bring in the pain.

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I liked liked Pagos, it's a beautiful zone, but I'm crazy that way. The nerfs now with being able to ride mounts at level 1 make getting around zones super easy.

How about we accept that XIV combat doesn't work with content made for XI combat?

It's slow enough to bore you to tears but too fast to have a decent conversation unless you're a party of court stenographers.

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Originally Posted by Shinklet

Eureka was unironically some of the best content in the game, because it made the game feel like an actual mmorpg. You had to team up, you had to ask for help, you needed certain people in order to do certain things, future-proofing? You get echo and mounting, come on...


I hope they double down on trying to replicate FF11 and add some actual mmorpg content, at the sheer ire of the casual limsa pleb afkers.

Levelling to a cap on launch could and was done in a single day of grinding if you didn't stand afk waiting for other people to spawn stuff for you so you could get one level in 3 hours. If you farmed level appropriate mutations, you could get a level every 35 minutes providing you used your dps logos and had good dps as a party.

I swear half the people in this game don't want to actually play it outside of the roleplay elements and that's fine. But when people like me get content that we can explore, grind, make mistakes in, group together in, make friends in, farm dope loot in, let us have it, you get your furniture and glams.

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"best content in the game?" it was large scale fate grinding or a demonstration of how boring XIV combat is when you have to do it for hours on end.

"at the sheer ire of casual limsa pleb afkers?" are you implying Eureka wasn't casual? lmao

For the record, there were plenty more people other than Limsa skanks, RPers and glam obsessed people who hated Eureka

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Originally Posted by Tlachtga

For the record, there were plenty more people other than Limsa skanks, RPers and glam obsessed people who hated Eureka

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Zones are still full of people. If it was that hated people wouldn't still be doing it. And whats new when it comes to relic. All relics are hated on this forum. It doesn't matter what xpac or which relic step.