question about P'molminn

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Yes, and they have their own forums, too.

I think if you're going to use any site's explicitly-labeled English forums, you ought to be able to write (and hopefully read) the English language to a passable degree.

If I tried to go over to the Japanese forums and make posts using the pittance of Japanese I actually know, I would fully expect to be mocked.

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This forum has 4 languages when the game has players from countries that my not speak the language (apparently Spanish speakers on your server according to Canadane, which isn't an officially supported language.). That said, many can read English and other languages decently well, but may not be able to speak or write it fluently due to lack of practice or understanding of how a proper structure is in English as it relates to their native tongue (English is backwards to many languages with a lot of differences in sentence structure and grammar). If you ask me, it's unreasonable to mock someone over something so trivial.

And Savagelf is a native speaker I see. My apologies for assuming it was not your first language. That's my bad!

Anyway, back to topic;

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

picture part of are dancer quest at some point we introduce P'molminn to dancer jobs

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Would be a pleasant surprise for me if P'molminn made another appearance, haven't thought about that quest in years.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Yes, and they have their own forums, too.

I think if you're going to use any site's explicitly-labeled English forums, you ought to be able to write (and hopefully read) the English language to a passable degree.

If I tried to go over to the Japanese forums and make posts using the pittance of Japanese I actually know, I would fully expect to be mocked.

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You ignored the next sentence:

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Originally Posted by Canadane

<...>Some people may not speak any of them, but English is often taught in many places as a secondary language.<...>

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If person is neither Japanese, English, French or German speaker, then they don't have their own forums and ought to use something of these 4 options, whichever is most suitable in their case. It doesn't mean that poor English is openly welcomed or is easy to understand, of course, but being rude or sarcastic with people when English often is pretty much only available option they have for interaction at Forums (because they know at least some of it thanks to school) doesn't make those, that are mocking, better people.

Plus, as a non-English speaker, I can say that such attitude completely kills any wish to study language or talk to natives because it gives a very bad example. When there is a person that learns my language and is trying to speak to me in it, I try to understand them and ask additional questions if it's needed for clarification of what exactly the mean, not mock them. Not to mention that without natural practice (such as chatting at Forums) your writing skills will never be good. And how are they supposed to get better if the only response learner gets is jokes and trolling?

Hence why I welcome "nihongo jouzu" phrases from Japanese (since you mentioned them) - though they often can say it even if the only thing you said/wrote is "Hello", at low level of speaking it still gives a pleasant feeling and wish to do even better. Most people work harder when they are praised to recieve even more praise, not when they are mocked which much more often kills any wish to do anything rather than gives motivation to work more.

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Back to the topic, though.

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

what happen to the poor Miq'ue dancer
I love see her discover the dancer job

I often hope seen character like this discovery job like this

I remember Miq'ato who sister was inthrall by male Miq'ote I often hope she would become job quests giver for ranger

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P'molminn sadly wasn't shown after completion of the quest ever since. She became an adventurer in the end, as far as I remember at least, so I hope she's doing well - it's a dangerous field of activity, after all. Maybe one day her path will cross with Dancers perfomance troop and she will join them. That would suit her.

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And you can be a better person by not mocking a person with bad english, Japanese, or any other language.

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You could also be a better person by not accusing people of something they didn't actually do.

first off I would like people not to point finger at each I understand my struggle with my writing disability I don't blame any of you for it. I understand it difficult to read why I am tried to write but if you like give me patient and give time figure out what I tried saying.

as for P'molminn and other realm reborn character I like see some them in job quests as return quests

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

as for P'molminn and other realm reborn character I like see some them in job quests as return quests

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It's always nice to see how people are doing after some time.
But the world is a dangerous place, half the time you can probably assume they uh... didn't make it.

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

as for P'molminn and other realm reborn character I like see some them in job quests as return quests

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We see ARR characters so rare that when they show up I'm honestly sitting there trying to remember who are they at all. Still, I'm glad to see some of them occasianlly showing up in cities here and there (like a girl from Rogue quests, whose name I sadly don't remember, wandering in different areas of Limsa Lominsa and such).

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

You could also be a better person by not accusing people of something they didn't actually do.

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You actually implied it yourself by saying you expect to be mocked, which lets the people that read your sentences think that you justify mocking and you are doing it yourself. Plus even if you are not mocking the person you are really rude, there are actually people that speak english as their first language and can't do that as well as the majority because of certain disabilities.

XIV supports 4 languages, as you know the world doesn't have only 4 languages. And strangely players who want to communicate with other players strangely have to go to this place here even tho all of the 4 supported languages are not their mothertongue.

the stray I love see her become a Ninja, or one for arcanist quest I love to see how they doing.

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You actually implied it yourself by saying you expect to be mocked, which lets the people that read your sentences think that you justify mocking and you are doing it yourself.

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Making a statement of what I would expect from other people is not the same thing as stating what I have or would have done.

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Plus even if you are not mocking the person you are really rude, there are actually people that speak english as their first language and can't do that as well as the majority because of certain disabilities.

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I can live with that.

Still think that if you're going to use a forum that explicitly says it's for a certain language, you should be able to reasonably communicate in that language. I don't particularly care about one's reasons for not being able to if the result is still an illegible/nonsensical post.

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XIV supports 4 languages, as you know the world doesn't have only 4 languages. And strangely players who want to communicate with other players strangely have to go to this place here even tho all of the 4 supported languages are not their mothertongue.

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Actually, no, they don't have to use these forums. Nobody *has* to use these forums. FFXIV players exist and communicate elsewhere, too.

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

the stray I love see her become a Ninja, or one for arcanist quest I love to see how they doing.

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we haven't heard anything from K'rhid and K'lyhia since last class quest for arcanist and i would love to know what they have been up too since our last adventure