Lets talk about the Savage Gear Weekly Restrictions

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Originally Posted by Vaer

It's mostly coffers that give you gear based on the job you open them on like the ones they give you on quests now. So you can play whatever job you want, then outside open the coffer on the job you want the gear on. So everyone can need most of everything unless they already are weekly locked out.

I don't think this will happen though, the even patches are supposed to be for gearing alts. (You should be done with tome for one job after 3 months, then you get the upgrade item and use the tomes on another job) So if they give you this extra gear people will drop out more during the "catch-up" patches.

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Right, so its generally much later in patches, not sooner. That's why I was confused. Most people are still farming for their main class in weekly lockouts. ...and "farming" is loose since once you clear a floor you're locked out anyways, until later.

That's why making this argument is not good and confusing at best.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I mentioned "not in a static" because a static will make sure everyone actually has their BIS before they allow free rolls, and by "off class", I mean a job the player is not actually raiding with.

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This argument still doesn't hold unless you're talking about later in patch cycles where people have already gotten enough on their main. PUG or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by QT_Melon

This argument still doesn't hold unless you're talking about later in patch cycles where people have already gotten enough on their main. PUG or otherwise.

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I'm...not sure what you're trying to argue either unless you're fine and dandy with people needing coffers for a class they don't actually use for raiding with zero consideration for how geared the others in their party are.

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Originally Posted by QT_Melon

Right, so its generally much later in patches, not sooner. That's why I was confused. Most people are still farming for their main class in weekly lockouts. ...and "farming" is loose since once you clear a floor you're locked out anyways, until later.

That's why making this argument is not good and confusing at best.



This argument still doesn't hold unless you're talking about later in patch cycles where people have already gotten enough on their main. PUG or otherwise.

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That depends on what you consider fair really. So let's say I win the waist earrings and ring on week 1. So I have these on healer now. On week 2, 3 and 4, I keep rolling on them while playing healer. I can't get the healing items a second time without being completely wasteful, so technically I'm rolling for alt jobs.

In a pug, anything goes though. I wouldn't ask people to pass but that's just me though. They helped complete it, used their weekly lock and it's a dice roll anyway.

Isn't it also to try to reduce carries? It's why you get less chests if you have people who cleared it already. So I don't think this idea would work, assuming that's part of the reason for the restriction.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'm...not sure what you're trying to argue either unless you're fine and dandy with people needing coffers for a class they don't actually use for raiding with zero consideration for how geared the others in their party are.

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everyone be selfish. that's the pug life. if you can clear just get your clear and then if rngesus is unkind then you'll just have to wait until savage is unlocked.