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Originally Posted by yTony

I don't think it would work with Gil, considering we have A LOT of rich people with billions stocked on retainers because of HWS broken market, maybe a new currency?

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Why wouldn't this work? Supply and demand would take care of it. This would just mean that the price of a subscription with gil would be very high. It doesn't really make a difference for SE since they will be selling same amount of subscriptions or more (unless people stop playing this game due to this feature).

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Originally Posted by Eli85

Everyone pays the same subscription. You're complaining about paying the same as someone else.

Grow up, and decide to pay it or not. The game is a privilege, not a right.

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You completely missed the point.
You're being just bad here.

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Originally Posted by Eli85

Everyone pays the same subscription. You're complaining about paying the same as someone else.

Grow up, and decide to pay it or not. The game is a privilege, not a right.

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LMFAO.
We don't pay the same subscription, in fact, Steam linked accounts pay region based subscription.

First you should get some manners, then you should learn more about the subject. Then you're more than welcome. In the meantime, you should go or at least stop giving misinformation.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Why wouldn't this work? Supply and demand would take care of it. This would just mean that the price of a subscription with gil would be very high. It doesn't really make a difference for SE since they will be selling same amount of subscriptions or more (unless people stop playing this game due to this feature).

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I know some people who have literally all retainers with max amount of gil. Not counting their FC banks. If the purpose is to break the RMT market, you'd be doing exactly the opposite giving these people the chance to convert Gil in IRL money in a rightful way.
That been said, you also have the majority of people in this game who doesn't have gil at all and that would either make the converting gil into game-time impossible, because of the ratio, or bringing even more RMT to the game.
Also, making gil in FF is something that makes you spend a lot of time, sitting in MB for example, undercutting people and stuff. You wouldn't be playing the game to get more game time, so what's the point?

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Originally Posted by yTony

I know some people who have literally all retainers with max amount of gil. Not counting their FC banks. If the purpose is to break the RMT market, you'd be doing exactly the opposite giving these people the chance to convert Gil in IRL money in a rightful way.
That been said, you also have the majority of people in this game who doesn't have gil at all and that would either make the converting gil into game-time impossible, because of the ratio, or bringing even more RMT to the game.
Also, making gil in FF is something that makes you spend a lot of time, sitting in MB for example, undercutting people and stuff. You wouldn't be playing the game to get more game time, so what's the point?

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Well you wouldn't really earn real life money but you'll save money for not spending on subscription. Perhaps make some kind of system in which you can only buy 1 subscription every month on 1 char so the gil billionaires can't completely wreck the supply. You would kind of break the RMT market since all money goes to SE instead of a third party (since you can only buy/sell subscriptions).

edit: RMT likely wouldn't go aways since WoW seems to also still have RMT, it would perhaps at least decrease it.

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Originally Posted by yTony

LMFAO.
We don't pay the same subscription, in fact, Steam linked accounts pay region based subscription.

First you should get some manners, then you should learn more about the subject. Then you're more than welcome. In the meantime, you should go or at least stop giving misinformation.

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We do. Non-Steam user here, in Canada, and I pay my sub in USD.

Sounds like you're the one who needs to educate themselves.

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Originally Posted by Eli85

We do. Non-Steam user here, in Canada, and I pay my sub in USD.

Sounds like you're the one who needs to educate themselves.

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Brazilian Steam subscription is 28,90 BRL. 1 dollar is 5 BRL at the momment. I'll let you do the math.
And considering taxes, I pay even more on subscription than you do. Again, we don't pay the same sub.

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Well you wouldn't really earn real life money but you'll save money for not spending on subscription. Perhaps make some kind of system in which you can only buy 1 subscription every month on 1 char so the gil billionaires can't completely wreck the supply. You would kind of break the RMT market since all money goes to SE instead of a third party (since you can only buy/sell subscriptions).

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I was considering buying subscription from those people, get it? Just like people buy gil nowadays.
I mean, I'd appreciate if it comes to the game but I think it would be troublesome.

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Originally Posted by yTony

Brazilian Steam subscription is 28,90 BRL. 1 dollar is 5 BRL at the momment. I'll let you do the math.
And considering taxes, I pay even more on subscription than you do. Again, we don't pay the same sub.

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If you choose to play on Steam, that's your choice and you live with the consequences of that. For everyone else? You pay through Mog Station and you'll get charged your local currency equivalent of $12.99 USD (or more, if you choose the standard over the entry).

So we all pay the equivalent of $12.99 USD in our local currency. Otherwise known as the same.

Sad that this has to be painstakingly explained.

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Originally Posted by Eli85

If you choose to play on Steam, that's your choice and you live with the consequences of that. For everyone else? You pay through Mog Station and you'll get charged your local currency equivalent of $12.99 USD (or more, if you choose the standard over the entry).

So we all pay the equivalent of $12.99 USD in our local currency. Otherwise known as the same.

Sad that this has to be painstakingly explained.

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The consequences: having discount on subscription, having discount on expansions, be able to use Steam Wallet to pay for Mogstation stuff :thinking_emoji:

I feel like I'm talking to a door or someone with a serious complex of been the right one. The guy legit point at people that are able to pay less and finish the sentence with "Otherwise known as the same".