The Queue is just frustrating and tilting

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Originally Posted by hynaku

Almost sounds like bots had all instant servers filled or there is ddos attack causing it. I know 2 days ago during the afternoon I queued for heaven on high and was in queue for over an hour before I canceled it. longest ever had as dps for that dungeon was 45 minutes. something up with queue that long.

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This has typically resulted in the queue filling, but getting stuck on a "reserving server" message or something.

For OP, not that it'll make a huge difference for the run, but, ffs, update your rings at the very least.

Also, yeah, this often turns out to be a language settings issue. You can probably even get a small jump if you join in progress, too, since there are some players that bail immediately on that run.

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Originally Posted by DensetsuJay

im queuing for The Praetorium Quest and as of now it already took me 311 mins???! like is this game dead or what or something or wARSDT3fwgstergherscvtsweht4w5er7gsdrcfvsebyfnyg its taking me forever and ever and ever for just 1 f****** Quest i cant move on? at least do something?

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You have your language set to J only. Go to Duty finder, hit the cog at the top left and then in the language section make sure E is highlighted and then give queue another go.

This sounds like a bugged queue, but I had this sort of problem in 2013, when the game was fresh, in Sastasha too. I think me and my mate waited like 180 minutes for Sastasha until the point we turned off the game and ranted a bit why there are mandatory dungeons to the story. There comes a lot of different problems together, and this can make it even more difficult to get into a certain dungeon:

1) Bugs. They happen.
2) Very low population - as a Red Mage on my own, I wait more than 30 minutes. Realistically, it's up to 45 minutes on primetime on my server. Now this can exponentionally go up depending on how off your local time is compared to the prime time. When I was server hopping until I found my beloved Zodiark server, I was on Ultros - an U.S. server without knowing. As European, it was of course dead when I played.
3) When you queue for a specific dungeon, you always take longer than a Roulette. I think it might be because the game builds a team around your needs while a Roulette you are filled into a random Duty. This way it takes longer. You might have seen that e.g. the tank shows 1/2, and suddenly it's 0/2 again. Healers and DPS the same. And you wonder, why this is happening, why would the game deliberately take away matches that you desperately needed. It's because they are filled into a fitting roulette. It's like a friggin dexterity game, and some of the balls (player) jump out of the holes (your team) and land elsewhere. It takes ages to have 2/2 tanks, 2/2 healers and 3/3 DPS with all this juggling, almost like a slot machine that never matches until you hit the jackpot.
4) Constelations of the roles. Imagine, you are the last DPS spot. The party is almost formed, just one healer is missing. Now a healer is actually registering for a duty - hooray! But wait, he is premade with a DPS. So he is not matched into your party, because the DPS spots are full. Now imagine the same with a healer + tank, 2 healer premade, 3 DPS and a healer, etc. There might be 15 healer and 12 tanks ready, but in constelations not suitable for the current matchup as they bring their friends and those would exceed each role. So the matchmaker assigns them to different dungeons, basically starving your queue. Until the point you have a single healer - like me - registering for MAIN SCENARIO DUTY, the tanks have been matched away already. And I leave the queue or get assigned elsewhere after a while to keep my waiting times lower.
5) On top of that, I personally do rarely register for MAIN SCENARIO ROULETTES myself, so while I am participating at Roulettes, I systematically prevent myself from being put into Praetorium, despite I am in Roulette, a single healer and ready to heal trough whatever instance it might be BUT those two main scenario quests. As they take long, many players rather do the other duties and then log off.

In short: A big chunk of awful problems are in your way. Once you are trough, ironically, it gets 10 times faster for the future visits of each instance. I waited ages for Bismarck as Scholar (!) when I had to do it and specially requested a Duty Finder queue. Now I instant-pop it on Roulette.

Sincerely,
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Roulettes fill around currently queued instances before filling a random duty in the list. For the MSQ it's a major time sink and the exp isn't as great in terms of time compared to the other roulettes. I know the last few times I queued as a tank in it was 30m+ estimate wait so I didn't bother so it's becoming less popular as an experience grind.

Lots of gibberish in this thread. I have all languages selected and have never had a queue go above 20m for any roulette. Yes this is for dps. Obviously tanking or healing is instant-5m. The only time I have seen drastic queues is for old 24 or 8m content. As Prae is part of the msq roulette that queue time suggested above is absolutely impossible if you don't queue in the middle of the night.

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Originally Posted by DensetsuJay

they should do something about this kind of scenario like if a normal player should have to wait this long players would quit..thinking there are no people playing this game like as of now 324 mins like 5 hours for 1 QUEST??

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Actually they intend to take those two duties out of duty finder completely, making them solo instances akin to the newer trusts, unless their plans have changed since they discussed this. Assuming things are on-course, that means the MSQ roulette will be taken out, and fewer roulettes means other roulettes saturate more quickly.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Lots of gibberish in this thread. I have all languages selected and have never had a queue go above 20m for any roulette. Yes this is for dps. Obviously tanking or healing is instant-5m. The only time I have seen drastic queues is for old 24 or 8m content. As Prae is part of the msq roulette that queue time suggested above is absolutely impossible if you don't queue in the middle of the night.

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Same here MSQ roulette is the roulette I do the most and it often took me less than 20 min to get in.
Right now I tried to queue to see how long it will take (I forgot I switched to tank for my pixie daylies) and I got it pop before I could withdraw.

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Originally Posted by DensetsuJay

they should do something about this kind of scenario like if a normal player should have to wait this long players would quit..thinking there are no people playing this game like as of now 324 mins like 5 hours for 1 QUEST??

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They're actually gonna be revamp the whole of ARR in a patch or so. This is also fixed on your end by joining an Fc and getting a tank or healer to help.

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Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo

Would it be too farfetched to turn these dungeons into a trust/squadron/duty like encounter? Eorzean alliance members from different grand companies could be the NPCs

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

Lots of gibberish in this thread. I have all languages selected and have never had a queue go above 20m for any roulette. Yes this is for dps. Obviously tanking or healing is instant-5m. The only time I have seen drastic queues is for old 24 or 8m content. As Prae is part of the msq roulette that queue time suggested above is absolutely impossible if you don't queue in the middle of the night.

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The info when selecting the language states the following:

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You will be matched with players who are using the selection languages.

*Depending on the languages chosen, matching times may increase. If you are experiencing overlong wait times, you may want to consider different language settings.

*The _ indicates your current client language setting.
*This setting is shared in all duty matching.

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Because DensetsuJay has it set for J only, the duty finder is restricting the pool of other players. Testing this right now as dps queuing specifically for the Praetorium, as E only there was a 24 minute average wait time while J only was over 30m wait time. Having both set gave a 24 minute average.

Testing for the MSQ roulette, swapping between the settings of J only, E only and both J & E the times were always 30m+ for E only, sometimes 30m+ for both, sometimes 25m for both and 25m for J only. So multiple languages selected can both help and hinder depending on how the queue places you if I go by the times the queue was telling me.