SMN - Enhanced Ruin misbehaving?

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

Just a note here, this almost never work for me. Using Assault right after precasted R3, the pet is still so inactive(unengaged) he will often not even use it - or maybe he uses it in so delayed fashion that it ghost the next one.

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Do you press "sic" during your Ruin 3 pre-cast? That's what allows you to follow directly with EA2. A good indicator is seeing your egi running fearlessly towards the boss during your cast, you can also pre position your Egi close to the boss and press "sic" at 0.5 seconds before the pull (but I have a bad experience of pulling that way so I prefer to let the egi run towards the boss during my cast). Sometimes I don't time it right (or there is some delay) and I have to clip my EA2 GCD for 0.5 second maybe, but it's better to stick with the order set in the opener.

from more observation: Devotion can sometimes trigger up to almost 1,5 GCDs later after Aetherpact.
This can happen even in middle of the fight. Its very easy to "eat" it.

so bad design..

If this is the same bug, I'm thinking of then its been around literally forever.

I am shocked they never fixed it and that it now spread to the new abilities.

It used to do this back in the day too. While it never ate any of my Contagions (back when that was in the game) it did eat more than its share of my Enkindles.

I do not remember it eating a Rouse or Spur though. But it might have as I usually used them in conjunction with each other so might not have noticed.

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Originally Posted by RylaBee

from more observation: Devotion can sometimes trigger up to almost 1,5 GCDs later after Aetherpact.
This can happen even in middle of the fight. Its very easy to "eat" it.

so bad design..

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It can happen yeah, especially if you did something like "Egi Assault" and weaved Aetherpact into this GCD. And yesterday I stupidly double weaved Aetherpact/Firebird Trance. I had the Devotion animation but no one got the buff.

So : Aetherpact should launch from the SMN, please.

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Originally Posted by Silverquick

I do not remember it eating a Rouse or Spur though. But it might have as I usually used them in conjunction with each other so might not have noticed.

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I think Rouse and Spur were not affected because it was from the SMN to the pet only, while Enkindle and Aetherpact are "from the SMN to the pet to the target/team" so that's were it can get clunky.

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Originally Posted by Mansion

It can happen yeah, especially if you did something like "Egi Assault" and weaved Aetherpact into this GCD. And yesterday I stupidly double weaved Aetherpact/Firebird Trance. I had the Devotion animation but no one got the buff.

So : Aetherpact should launch from the SMN, please.

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yeah that happens to me a lot even tho I know how to correct it but dbl-weaving those two seems so logical... a shame that the code/animation log is so bad we have to deal with ghosting instead <.<

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Originally Posted by Mansion

It can happen yeah, especially if you did something like "Egi Assault" and weaved Aetherpact into this GCD. And yesterday I stupidly double weaved Aetherpact/Firebird Trance. I had the Devotion animation but no one got the buff.

So : Aetherpact should launch from the SMN, please.



I think Rouse and Spur were not affected because it was from the SMN to the pet only, while Enkindle and Aetherpact are "from the SMN to the pet to the target/team" so that's were it can get clunky.

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Well it certainly explains why it was Enkindles that got eaten back then.

You used to use Rouse + Spur + Enkindle. Three pet actions all in a row. Rouse and Spur together gave this insane damage boost to the pet. Together they were like 60% or 80% damage bonus to the pets attacks.

Which you really needed for Enkindle back then, which had an equally insanely long CD. It was like 5-10 minutes or thereabouts so you'd only use like one of them for the entire fight... and losing one to Pet Queue overloading was painful.

I suppose its probably not as noticeable these days since the CD is so much shorter and missing 1 out of 4-5 during a given boss fight could easily be missed.