Individual players shouldn't be allowed to purchase or relocate to Large plots.

And a single player owning a large is a problem.. Why?

Because they have the gil to buy it? Work harder then.

Because they can keep an FC from getting it, despite the fact that FC accommodation doesn't change with house size? (Outside of maybe extra FC rooms.)

You realize that while people clamor for more housing, you get given it. But now, instead of being grateful for a temporary fix, you lash out at other people who have what you don't. You don't deserve, nor are you entitled to get anything any other player must work for. You want a large? Grow up and get one. Not cry that a single person beat your entire group into getting it.

What next, going to demand that personal home owners shouldn't be allowed to own anything but apartments? That they don't DESERVE to be in the Housing Wards to begin with? Yeah, good job. Let's just remove all of the personal housing from every player, regardless of when they got it and how much they paid.

Then all the plots will be FC-only, shame the FCs will become nonexistent without players behind a banner.

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Originally Posted by Kenky

And a single player owning a large is a problem.. Why?

Because they have the gil to buy it? Work harder then.

Because they can keep an FC from getting it, despite the fact that FC accommodation doesn't change with house size? (Outside of maybe extra FC rooms.)

You realize that while people clamor for more housing, you get given it. But now, instead of being grateful for a temporary fix, you lash out at other people who have what you don't. You don't deserve, nor are you entitled to get anything any other player must work for. You want a large? Grow up and get one. Not cry that a single person beat your entire group into getting it.

What next, going to demand that personal home owners shouldn't be allowed to own anything but apartments? That they don't DESERVE to be in the Housing Wards to begin with? Yeah, good job. Let's just remove all of the personal housing from every player, regardless of when they got it and how much they paid.

Then all the plots will be FC-only, shame the FCs will become nonexistent without players behind a banner.

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All you've done is berate people who are upset over this Kenky. Get over yourself. 'Work harder'? Like they have any control over:

1. Farming for MONTHS to get the gil in preparation
2. Plan and plot out how they're going to get there as fast as possible the second servers go live and THEN:

SERVER LOBBY ERROR 3 TIMES IN A ROW. BY THE TIME YOU GET IN THEY'RE ALL GONE!!!

Right. Work harder really fixes that problem. Genius.

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Originally Posted by Angellos

All you've done is berate people who are upset over this Kenky. Get over yourself. 'Work harder'? Like they have any control over:

1. Farming for MONTHS to get the gil in preparation
2. Plan and plot out how they're going to get there as fast as possible the second servers go live and THEN:

SERVER LOBBY ERROR 3 TIMES IN A ROW. BY THE TIME YOU GET IN THEY'RE ALL GONE!!!

Right. Work harder really fixes that problem. Genius.

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1. Farming for MONTHS to get gil? You're certainly farming wrong if it's taking you months to make a noticable amount of change.
2. You've heard of logging out at the placard, right? The thing most sensible people do when they're camping plots?

As for Server Lobby Error. That's on your end and that, in of itself, is a very minor issue. Hundreds of thousands on, yet only barely triple-digits affected by an issue that is fixed by a restart of the client. But I suppose you couldn't much care about that.

There is no rhyme nor reason to be upset that another player got a large, instead of them. Once again, proving that our "responsible, adult community" sure ain't as adult as people are lead to believe. Responsibility is non-existent to boot.

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Originally Posted by Alynn

Why should I get personal housing? I worked all by myself to get the gil, I had to go in the same queue, patch the same game, and I've been preparing since the end of Stormblood for this. If anything I'm at a disadvantage lmao. I enjoy decorating houses and having a theme that doesn't look like roommates thrown in together haphazardly so the aesthetics argument of yours just comes down to personal taste.

1. If you have the whole of the server's rp community to run, you could easily negotiate with others to get a large house.
2. If you have that many people to run after (let's be generous and say 50 people) you could pay someone to give you their house if you really wanted to. I don't think 5 million per person is too much to ask for since it's a boon for the whole of your community.
3. You have over 20(?) people who can go around and get the house for you if you can't yourself, which is the root of your gripes I am guessing.
4. Whatever achievements you have, I have as well so I'd like to show them off :)
5. You claim that someone doesn't need all that space for themselves. So unless your people are going to fill the house to its maximum capacity or at least 75% of it at any given time like it's wall street for rp or something, the house serves the same purpose as it does to you as it does to me, an individual.
6. I have friends who come over too so I don't know why the fact that it's an individual house doesn't mean more than one person gets value out of it???

People like to argue that FC's/large groups of people should have priority because they have more people. So where are your people when housing drops? There's so many of you while there's one of me. Mathematically, the probability of a FC getting a house is much higher than an individual.

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Preach sister!

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Originally Posted by Kenky

1. Farming for MONTHS to get gil? You're certainly farming wrong if it's taking you months to make a noticable amount of change.
2. You've heard of logging out at the placard, right? The thing most sensible people do when they're camping plots?

As for Server Lobby Error. That's on your end and that, in of itself, is a very minor issue. Hundreds of thousands on, yet only barely triple-digits affected by an issue that is fixed by a restart of the client. But I suppose you couldn't much care about that.

There is no rhyme nor reason to be upset that another player got a large, instead of them. Once again, proving that our "responsible, adult community" sure ain't as adult as people are lead to believe. Responsibility is non-existent to boot.

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Lobby server affected many - those who did get in were lucky, but it's not a player issue when it happened to so many.

You couldn't log out at the placards because the new wards didn't exist.
50~m can take a little to raise; months (2+) is reasonable, depending on the size of the FC / play time available etc.

I get what you're trying to say Kenky, but I feel like you're being needlessly abrasive.

I can sympathize with your dilemma but I have seen many individuals make better use of their Large plots than FCs do. Many individuals are active at their Large plots and most tend to be some form of crafter meaning they get really good use of the market boards which tend to be fairly close by.

I personally recently downgraded from a Large to a Medium with the 5.1 release because its abit daunting having a massive house to yourself, I had fully furnished my previous Large and was active but it still felt strange.

Point being while I believe that FCs should have first shot at Larges seeing as they tend to have more people in them and most FCs tend to make good use of the Large plots it doesn't mean individuals should be entirely locked out of purchasing Large plots. What SE could have done with this most recent batch of housing is locked Large plots to FCs only (including relocations so that only FCs can relocate into the Large plots) and open to the public a day later though I'm not sure they are able to code relocations to work that way.

Typically, the people who complain about individual players having large mansions are one's who can't afford one. I bought mine about 3 years ago because... well, because I WANTED IT! Was it ego? Partially, yes, and I don't apologize for that. But it was MORE for the 3 garden plots that a master crafter needs. And on a strictly "need the space" basis, an FC CAN function just fine with a SMALL plot, but the larger houses give more "cred". And it's not about how much space you need, it's about what you want and can afford... just like in real life.

As a player that crafts a lot, I probably spend more time at my house than most FC players.

Me getting a house had nothing to do with vanity. I did the home is where the heart is quest when I was just a new sprout, and I said I'm getting one of these one day, and made it a goal. If I set a goal, and raised the money why should I not have to same chance to get the house I want? FCs aren't the only ones that have things from the game they want to display. I've crafted every miniature, every stuffed item, every wall mounted item, etc possible, and I have them displayed around my house. Something I could never do in a smaller house.

I spend time in my house every time I log into the game. Can the same be said about all FC members? Most of the time the people who raised the money for the FC to buy the house, put the most work in the raise the FC level, craft wheels, and make ships are the same type of people you're crying about. It's fine when they do it for a FC, but if you do the same work as an individual to accomplish a goal you're being vain?

I understand people are mad they didn't get the house they wanted. But every time I see one of these FC entitlement threads I just shake my head.

It's unfair for everyone in this game. FFXIV housing needs to be improved by instance, so everyone can enjoy their own hard work to get a large. Bigger is better i say. Working your ass off in game to get what you want and then can't get because of the server kicking us out or what not and then to compete whit others who get lucky and get the house we wanted. This is a big disadvantage for many players and very depressing to the matter. I say people need to speak up their opinions to the developers and say. " This is the problem whit housing." I'm not satisfied whit having a small house and whit poor view. I don't care to see my neighbor, I care to get my hard work done to get a large house that I want. No more camping for housing to sell, No more sleepless nights trying to get your house and then you lose to get it. This ain't fun and not helping me enjoy the rest of the content of the game. Please help FFXIV developers.:(

why does everyone think having them locked to FC will fix things the people who buy individuals will just make their own fc and buy it its not like they cant afford it if its suddenly a fc house just accept you where no't fast enough to get a house.