Was it you Decptus or another poster that worked out that a Drg with up to date hq white gear(lv68) had more defences than a tank in ilv270 gear. So yea OP i wouldn't have put up with someone who was 10 ilvs below that sometimes people deserve das boot obviously after telling them to go get gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deceptus
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10-19-2019, 08:38 AMCrushnight
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10-19-2019, 05:32 PMSaefinnIdeally people should pick up gear as they go, I get that when people are levelling they don't wanna spend on gear, but there is only a certain amount that you can get away with, but some people can take the mick a little, especially in roles where it makes enough of a difference like tanking or healing. Case in point I was farming Bardam's Mettle to get my healer gear for glimglams from there, first tank, I thought was losing a lot of HP and died pulling wall-to-wall and I was like "I'm pretty sure I'm a better healer than this" and checked the tank's gear and it explained everything, but I didn't get salty with them, they were polite & pleasant enough and I've complained a lot here about not having enough to do when healing, so in that respect they were doing me a favour :P Next run, the tank in that party also pulled wall to wall and it was a walk in the park, because they were geared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeka
But if trying to improve your skills, undergeared people or people messing up I think is good practice and good for pushing your ability as a healer, of course, as long as they don't take the "blame the healer" method if things go wrong. But saving parties that want to kill themselves is one area healing can get rewarding as you can be like "yeah, I pulled that from total chaos", there's always room for improvement, but being able to pull off what you hadn't before is a nice sign of progress. But sometimes that positive spin gets surpassed by healer rage...because you just wanna get out with as little hassle as possible and it can be elementary stuff.
With faerie cooldowns, I suppose if you're coming from a background of relying on the AI that it's something to get used to, but they way I've always treated it is that they're just additional healing skills on my crossbar/hotbar. I keep all my healing stuff bunched together and all of my DPS stuff bunched together so I don't lose track of any CD's in what I'm doing rather than thinking of faerie abilities as a separate entity. This was how I also micromanaged my faeries before the changes, I never used the pet bar. In a way, this change just normalised how I handled my pets.
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10-19-2019, 07:48 PMSylvainWhy did you put so many useless spells readily available but Broil and Biolysis aren't on your main bar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saefinn
I don't know how you heal but I believe you don't press, Emergency Tactic, Adlo and Physik enough to warrant them space on my main action bar vs Broil and Bio (admittedly Adlo could stay tho) -
10-19-2019, 08:34 PMCrushnightIf they are like me, it is just to keep things together, hotbar 1 Heals(still primary role even if we do dps more), hotbar 2 Dps, hotbar 3 pet, now hotbar 3 is gone :( and hotbar 2 was gutted like nothing else over the expansions but i have kept that consistency because i'm used to it, and lastly rude :/ so long as they do their role and dps when able, no need for such comments it doesn't take over 2 secs to switch hotbars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvain
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10-19-2019, 10:06 PMSaefinnSimple. Extended crossbars. All of my DPS stuff is on my extended crossbar. It's a set up that works for me because I have a separation of concerns, if I am having to focus more on healing, all the spells that can help are all in one place and I can immediately see what is and what isn't on cooldown, so I can hit that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvain
If I am no longer focused on healing and want to spam broil or art of war ad infinitum then I just need to hold down one extra button and that's it now I can spam DPS moves. It's also an approach that made it easy to accomodate SCH's old DPS rotations as I had plenty of space for it, which sadly has since been gutted. And I don't have to get into the mentality of prioritising what I put on my main crossbar. I recommended turning on extended crossbars to anybody who doesn't use them, they feel weird to begin with but IMO they make it a lot smoother to access your second page of skills.
For me at least, it flows well and works with how I think. I realise it don't work for everybody, but then no set up is a one size fits all, because people's brains are wired differently. -
10-20-2019, 01:14 AMMhaeric
Re: gearing as you go.
At a bare minimum, if someone wants to minimize the amount of gil they spend for gear to supplement whatever dungeon gear they manage to get, I recommend getting a full tomestone set at levels ending in zero and buying HQ crafted gear at levels ending in 5. Between the levels ending from 0-5 you won't even need dungeon gear since the tome gear is better than dungeon gear, and from 5-9 the 5 gear supplemented with dungeon drops as obtained is strong enough to get through content well enough even with minimal dungeon drops. The exception I would make to this rule of thumb is buying the HQ weapon for your level from 5-9 if you didn't get the dungeon drop from the previous tier since weapon has a huge impact on performance for any job. -
10-21-2019, 05:51 AMMaekaI know not everybody is going to do it like this, but what I did... and this made it easy as pie to stay geared up, is I would level groups of classes, 2 levels at a time. For example I would have 3 of the tanks (Pld was already 70 when ShB released) and two of the healers (same for WHM) on, say, 63.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mhaeric
I'd level a healer through Shisui until 65. Then I'd level the other healer through Shisui until 65. Then I'd take 1 tank through Shisui until 65 and keep doing that. I got *plenty* of dungeon drops to equip all of my jobs, Almost. I fell slightly short on Doma Castle because doing Beast Tribe dailies caused me to out-pace the dungeon drops and now all 3 tanks are Lv71 with the exception of GNB which will ding 71 tomorrow and so they're all wearing Scaevan. I plan on doing the same with Don Mheg+.
And thanks to Trusts, and the fact I did the MSQ by taking my RDM through all the story dungeons with Trusts, I already have a decent spattering of gear to start with sitting on a retainer. -
10-21-2019, 06:15 AMSaefinnQuote:
Originally Posted by Maeka
Hey whatever method works for you. I'm generally the impatient sort, I wanna get my first job to level cap before I touch anything else lol, I'll max out the gear from the last level cap and stretch it until a reasonable level and let them MSQ gear me for the rest.
And hey, means you aren't working to gear yourself as it means you naturally get it as you go and the advantage of more glams when you are levelled, because that's the true endgame here. -
10-21-2019, 06:35 AMMaeka
*nods* I did my WHM through Leveling Roulette well before I unlocked anything beyond Holminster Switch; so I never got into a Level 73+ dungeon until way near the end I did get a Don Mheg run once as WHM, but by then I had a hodge-podge of Lv73, 75, and 77 dungeon pieces that I had gotten from taking my RDM through those dungeons.
My RDM? I quested and did the Trust dungeons, easily enough with maybe a Leveling Roulette or two when the quests outpaced my level. -
10-22-2019, 01:57 PMImpurrrsive
Returning character perhaps, ur heal style more like in ARR timeline minus the reactive part,
Love ur excog and lustrate more, don't forget the fairy. In time u'll press less emergency tactics