the viera and the hat

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

They already said they're going to be adding more headgear. I don't know what else to tell you in regards to that. Also, I never said anyone loved the state of things. You're just saying random things now, rather incoherently. They're going to be adding more to each race. Only time will tell how things end up.

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Reality is that Viera doesn't work well with regular headgear. "Our" ears are super long and just hide or use those caps that Miqotes and Elezen had from time to time is a no-no. So, while I'm pretty sure we are going to get more hairstyles and headgear is still going to be a limited selection, and I get it, adding the holes to certain hats will almost "delete" the hat.

And yes, only SE is to blame here for adding races but not be willing to fully adapt the gear for their unique characteristics like was the case for 1.x

Note: And I'm saying this as a really happy Viera player, but facts are the facts, SE cut a lot of corners this expansion.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I know you seem to like to be abrasive in these replies. I am not "rambling incoherently". I was replying to the thread, context here:

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Your response to me had little cohesiveness to it in regards to previous posts. And if you think that's abrasive, then I guess I'll just have a chuckle at that because I'm nowhere near abrasive.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

Reality is that Viera doesn't work well with regular headgear. "Our" ears are super long and just hide or use those caps that Miqotes and Elezen had from time to time is a no-no. So, while I'm pretty sure we are going to get more hairstyles and headgear is still going to be a limited selection, and I get it, adding the holes to certain hats will almost "delete" the hat.

And yes, only SE is to blame here for adding races but not be willing to fully adapt the gear for their unique characteristics like was the case for 1.x

Note: And I'm saying this as a really happy Viera player, but facts are the facts, SE cut a lot of corners this expansion.

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I don't understand why your reply was aimed at me when my response is quite literally "SE says they're going to add more headgear options to the new races." They said it. I'm assuming they'll stick to their word and do as such. Do I expect every piece of headgear? Not in the slightest and I don't recommend anyone else assume that either. I'm just going based off of what has been told to us. As I said in the quote, only time will tell on how the new races end up.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

Reality is that Viera doesn't work well with regular headgear. "Our" ears are super long and just hide or use those caps that Miqotes and Elezen had from time to time is a no-no. So, while I'm pretty sure we are going to get more hairstyles and headgear is still going to be a limited selection, and I get it, adding the holes to certain hats will almost "delete" the hat.

And yes, only SE is to blame here for adding races but not be willing to fully adapt the gear for their unique characteristics like was the case for 1.x

Note: And I'm saying this as a really happy Viera player, but facts are the facts, SE cut a lot of corners this expansion.

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Good reply, I totally agree. Especially the first ears which aren't sticking straight up, and the floppy ears. The selection will always be extremely limited, and the work required to make it proper will probably never be done.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

Your response to me had little cohesiveness to it in regards to previous posts. And if you think that's abrasive, then I guess I'll just have a chuckle at that because I'm nowhere near abrasive.

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My first line was not a reply to you, the second line was (after quote), and I generally quote people and don't even respond to them, but add to them. Your posts have and are to me abrasive, for these forums. I wish we could say more and show our true colors, but we can't. This is me being polite.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

My first line was not a reply to you, the second line was (after quote), and I generally quote people and don't even respond to them, but add to them. Your posts have and are to me abrasive, for these forums. I wish we could say more and show our true colors, but we can't.

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Again, if you take it as abrasive, that's entirely on you. I'm very far from such and tone doesn't necessarily translate through text well. However, this last part here entertains me. I don't know what "true colors" you think I'm hiding but I'm as straightforward as can be. Perhaps you shouldn't project onto others. You seem keen on trying to incite something.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

Again, if you take it as abrasive, that's entirely on you. I'm very far from such and tone doesn't necessarily translate through text well. However, this last part here entertains me. I don't know what "true colors" you think I'm hiding but I'm as straightforward as can be. Perhaps you shouldn't project onto others. You seem keen on trying to incite something.

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Yes, I made an innocent hyperbolic post about hair - which wasn't off-topic since I correlated that to the hat situation. You came with a reply of me spreading false information, you continuously reply to me and others in a personal manner, have also done so in other threads, but I am looking into this the wrong way.

Viera's new headgear? It's just going to be circlets, crowns, face masks - no hats. Platitudes about them adding more hats are just that. This thread is about hats, specifically ear holes added to the hats - the proper way to actually add them.

Some of my posts might seem like "rambling incoherently, but that is because I read the ToS several times, I keep my posts on-topic.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

I don't understand why your reply was aimed at me when my response is quite literally "SE says they're going to add more headgear options to the new races." They said it. I'm assuming they'll stick to their word and do as such. Do I expect every piece of headgear? Not in the slightest and I don't recommend anyone else assume that either. I'm just going based off of what has been told to us. As I said in the quote, only time will tell on how the new races end up.

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The reason I responded to you was: is not hard to understand that Churro is salty, and he/she is right about being salty, with SE with how they have cut corners with the two new races. It's clear that he/she knows more hairs and headgear is coming but is still a limited selection. If you happen to like certain hairstyle or headgear and it's never added... bad luck.

Is she/he trollish? Sure. Does matter? Not really.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Yes, I made an innocent hyperbolic post about hair - which wasn't off-topic since I correlated that to the hat situation. You came with a reply of me spreading false information, you continuously reply to me and others in a personal manner, have also done so in other threads, but I am looking into this the wrong way.

Viera's new headgear? It's just going to be circlets, crowns, face masks - no hats. Platitudes about them adding more hats are just that. This thread is about hats, specifically ear holes added to the hats - the proper way to actually add them.

Some of my posts might seem like "rambling incoherently, but that is because I read the ToS several times, I keep my posts on-topic.

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I'm not sure what part of this you are taking personally, but be rest assured that my words are lax and not pointed. You made a post that was pointed at me after I simply told you that the information you posted was incorrect. I am someone that doesn't enjoy the sharing or spreading of incorrect information. I don't know what you mean when you say that I reply to you in a personal matter. I don't know you, personally. Therefore nothing I say is aimed at you personally.
As for the types of headgear we'll be getting, only SE has that information and can confirm it. If it's circlets, masks, or crowns, so be it. But as of right now we don't have that information. We just have "We'll be adding more headgear. Please look forward to it." Basically. If you've read ToS then you're aware that inciting an argument is against it, which you are currently doing. To avoid further confusion and misunderstanding, my stance is this; We don't know what they have planned in regards to specific headgear, hairstyles, and the alleged new faces for Hrothgar. We don't know if they'll add ways to change Hrothgar options through the Aesthetician. Hopefully all of these things are addressed appropriately and everyone gets hats. That's my piece. Have a good day. :)

I don't understand how making holes on hats is SO time consuming.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

They won't do proper earholes for hats, even if they do add hats. God forbid they add helmets, au ra horns clip through the sides, and miqo'te ears only show up on a select few hats. Miqo'te helmet/hats hide the ears and just have 'ear armor' instead.

I'm sure every other hrothgar players loves the current state of things., many others must love limited hair, having to use fantasia for every supposed new hairstyle, and having little to no headgear. Them and viera will always have little to no headgear as well.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

I know you seem to like to be abrasive in these replies. I am not "rambling incoherently". I was replying to the thread, context here:



You are kidding yourself if you actually think they are going to add a substantial amount anytime soon. Probably never.

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I agree with Arngrim_Greyashe, you are all over the place with that first post: even contradicting yourself saying both the Miqo'te ears being shown and not shown.. It is, like he say, rather incoherent. The truth is, we don't know and getting rilled up now won't change the outcome positively.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

They already said they're going to be adding more headgear. I don't know what else to tell you in regards to that. Also, I never said anyone loved the state of things. You're just saying random things now, rather incoherently. They're going to be adding more to each race. Only time will tell how things end up.

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