[Spoilers] Are the WoLs from all the shards reflections of the Source WoL's soul?

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

It is honestly hard to tell what Emet would have done with the time-travel powers since he could have even used it to travel to before the original calamaity in hopes of finding the solution to prevent it before Summon Zodiark plan was set in motion since that plan was only used ebcause it was the last and only solution left for them.


On that note, it seems Eden Raid may provide the Solution to save the 13th but that is only my theory.

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Well if time travel that far would even be possible in a reality that is split.

I am not sure if Eden is really showing this. The difference: One shard is using the aether that is there but stopped, the other shard has no aether left at all.

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Originally Posted by Alleo

Well if time travel that far would even be possible in a reality that is split.

I am not sure if Eden is really showing this. The difference: One shard is using the aether that is there but stopped, the other shard has no aether left at all.

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which would fit into the Oracle of Darkness nature though for now it is all speculations until 5.2

Eden right now is a big mystery from origin and to why the Oracle of Darkness and her followers are so obsessed with it.

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As for the remaining 5 fragments of WoL's original soul. I suspect we may encounter them as the "Warriors of Light" that are planned to be sent to kill or delay the Scions so they can't return to the Source.

For what reason they would target the Scions and our WoL remains a msytery but if I know manga/LN/anime, their reason maybe blind belief for being "Heroes"/"Chosen Ones", ignorant of what is really going on thus they assume we are the Villains, or personal.

The story seem to be reaching the finale which maybe 6.0 Expansion and I am not surprised as this Season 1 storyline been the focus since 1.0 thus has dragged on long enough in my opinion. How Season 1 ends to finally close the Zodiark/Ascian vs Hydaelyn/WoL Storyline and what will begin in Season 2 with new people, new allies, maybe returning allies, new antagonists, and long term antagonist we can only guess from here as no one has control of what will happen in the future now.

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Originally Posted by MrThinker

Well, to begin:

Before that scene, we were already 8/14 rejoined. Remember, the Source also had its own soul shards, and there were 7 calamities. Source + 7 Shards makes us 8/14 at the beginning of ARR. Ardbert rejoining us pushes us to 9/14, more closer than ever to being "whole" by Ascian standards. And enough for Hades to temporarily see us as the Amaourotine he knew. Becoming 9/14 did not make us immediately stronger, instead it made us more able to contain the Light raging inside our body.... though it could probably be used to explain any increases in strength from thereon in.

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This is incorrect.
We are only 7 times rejoined before the end of SHB.
Emet himself said he had high hopes for a 7 times rejoined vaunted hero of the source.

Also, to tc, Arbert being a part of our original self is not a theory but confimed by that one Amouratine.

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Originally Posted by Milea

This is incorrect.
We are only 7 times rejoined before the end of SHB.
Emet himself said he had high hopes for a 7 times rejoined vaunted hero of the source.

Also, to tc, Arbert being a part of our original self is not a theory but confimed by that one Amouratine.

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It actually isn't incorrect. On our own, with no rejoining, we are 1/14. Each calamity has added one to that number, thus 7 calamities makes us 8/14. You're also correct that we are "7 times rejoined" but unless you subscribe to the Emet-Selch philosophy of "I do not consider you to be alive", then we were already 1 on our own.

More than that - EVERYBODY on the Source with a divided soul should, in theory, now be 8/14ths complete. This may be part of the reason why Emet-Selch seems to hold Source natives in higher regard than natives of the Shards. They're already more than halfway whole!

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Originally Posted by Hezzlocks

It actually isn't incorrect. On our own, with no rejoining, we are 1/14. Each calamity has added one to that number, thus 7 calamities makes us 8/14. You're also correct that we are "7 times rejoined" but unless you subscribe to the Emet-Selch philosophy of "I do not consider you to be alive", then we were already 1 on our own.

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I'm not sure on if we're 1/14, 8/14, or even 2/14 now.

BUT I do know based on the story and how...reflections of a lot of characters from the Source seemed to be in The First, that, yes, the other WOL's we may see in the future are just...part of us. Just as Ardbert was/is.

Once we have the remaining pieces, we'll probably remember our time in Amaurot, find out we're an ascian of some kind, who knows.

Several times in the story, especially towards the end, Emet makes several comments about how he not only knows us, and used to be friends with us, but he knows our real name. Were he alive to see us completed, I'm sure he'd be very happy, in some weird villainous way. His whole thing at the end seemed like he was trying to convince us to stop what we were doing to help him so we could be complete again.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

More than that - EVERYBODY on the Source with a divided soul should, in theory, now be 8/14ths complete. This may be part of the reason why Emet-Selch seems to hold Source natives in higher regard than natives of the Shards. They're already more than halfway whole!

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No, not every living thing on the source is a shard of a presundered being. Each reflection has its own Lifestream that recycles aether as living things die and reborn. Only a select few individuals are shards. I’ve read some theories that individuals with the Echo are that group and that the Echo is a manifestation of creation magic.

The problem with the Echo being what designates Sundered Ancient Souls is how the Ascians talk about it in 2.0. Lahabrea even calls it a "aberration in the aether" even though he himself has it and can use it to fuse with Igyorhim for a time. Elidibus calls it "a gift". Furthermore, the Echo is what prevents us from being Tempered, and yet the Ascians themselves were Tempered by Zoidark.

I get the feeling that whatever the Echo is, it is not something natural the Ancients originally had. The Ascians have somehow gotten it along the way (my gut says after being Tempered by Zoidark) and some people have it. How they got it though? No idea.

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Originally Posted by ObsidianFire

The problem with the Echo being what designates Sundered Ancient Souls is how the Ascians talk about it in 2.0. Lahabrea even calls it a "aberration in the aether" even though he himself has it and can use it to fuse with Igyorhim for a time. Elidibus calls it "a gift". Furthermore, the Echo is what prevents us from being Tempered, and yet the Ascians themselves were Tempered by Zoidark.

I get the feeling that whatever the Echo is, it is not something natural the Ancients originally had. The Ascians have somehow gotten it along the way (my gut says after being Tempered by Zoidark) and some people have it. How they got it though? No idea.

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Maybe it was something Hydealyn or her summoners introduced. They knew that Zodiark and his tempering is bad so maybe they also thought of something to stop that. But sadly through her powers she weakened that too thus most dont have it and maybe only sometimes it develops in people.