How is GNB's personal mitigation?

I personally think the mitigation is really nice. People complain about camouflage but why? It's not comparable to other CD's on other tanks because they don't have a CD to compare it to, camouflage is basically just extra and who complains at extra mitigation for free?

Nebula is pretty much same as all the rest, good stuff. Rampart is rampart, you know it. Heart of stone is great for the short cooldown, comparable to raw intuition, sheltron and blackest night. Camouflage is something other tanks don't seem to get so it's quite nice to use with Aurora while you're pulling. Heart of light sucks but eh, it has to have some weaknesses. Superbolide is pretty decent, if you use it in emergencies your life is already low enough that it doesn't matter going down to 1 and you have tons of time to be healed up, pity the CD is so long.

All in all, the cooldowns are nice, they get the job done. I'd say WAR and PLD might have it better but that's them being too strong imo, not gunbreaker being weak.

I think it's okay it's not as strong as WAR or PLD and it doesn't have something like TBN but Superbolide is really strong, Nebula is the same as Shadow Wall/Sentinel so no complaints there, Camouflage is okay nothing to write home about and Heart of Stone is a great on demand active mitigation CD.

My only complaint is when you hit Bardam's and Doma is you start to feel the lack of CDs as Heart of Stone isn't till 68 other than that i'm having a blast leveling.

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Originally Posted by Carstien

...People complain about camouflage but why? It's not comparable to other CD's on other tanks because they don't have a CD to compare it to, camouflage is basically just extra and who complains at extra mitigation for free?

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Camouflage can be compared to WAR's Thrill of Battle, which is 20% additional HP and a heal for the same amount. Camouflage isn't that far behind, but it is still behind when you consider the EHP gained from Thrill.

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Originally Posted by Carstien

...Heart of stone is great for the short cooldown, comparable to raw intuition, sheltron and blackest night.

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While true, it is only comparable to Sheltron (since block is 15% too, down from 20), but PLD has a passive, permanent block chance in addition to their parry chance thanks to their shield. Raw Intuition provides 20% damage reduction as opposed to 15% and Blackest Night is a massive 25% based on the DRK's HP. While at a glance a 5% difference might not seem like a big thing, it is 5% damage mitigated from a tankbuster that can potentially hit for tens of thousands of damage.

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Originally Posted by Carstien

All in all, the cooldowns are nice, they get the job done. I'd say WAR and PLD might have it better but that's them being too strong imo, not gunbreaker being weak.

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I also must disagree with this. WAR and PLD have amazing toolkits that get the job done, it's Gunbreaker (and to a lesser degree DRK) that are too weak defensively speaking IMO. That's not to say GNB is a wet piece of paper, but it definitely needs a minor buff to bring it in line with other tanks.

At least a camouflage buff up to 15% damage reduction (20% would be ideal but may be too strong IMO) and bring Heart of Stone up to 20% reduction to keep it in line with Raw Intuition, even if the duration is reduced to match it as well.

Camouflage is pretty underrated, at least in dungeons. Even with the parry nerf to 15%, a 50% chance of parrying should average about 7.5% physical mitigation. So GNB has 17.5% physical mitigation and 10% magical mitigation for 20s on a 90s cooldown, compared to Thrill being ~16-17% of both for 10s (90s cooldown) and DM being just 20% magical mitigation for 10s (60s cooldown). It's not the best skill for tankbuster mitigation, but the other cooldowns cover that anyway.

Those comparing Camoflauge to the likes of thrill. I compare it to Foresight, because it’s similar but not total crap because there’s some actual passive mitigation that works for magic too. The new Thrill is just a better Conva.

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Originally Posted by Conando

Those comparing Camoflauge to the likes of thrill. I compare it to Foresight, because it’s similar but not total crap because there’s some actual passive mitigation that works for magic too. The new Thrill is just a better Conva.

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Man...foresight...that's a name I haven't heard in a looooong time. Good ole beta/2.0 days.

So what i think should be done is give us defensive cartridge spender doesnt need to be anything crazy, even let us double down since they want us to be the parry tank. Blade Barricade: Increases parry rate by (15%-25%) for 10 seconds and grants a 5% Max HP shield.

Haven't given it a good solid run, but even with Camo I'd just started to default to treat the regen as quasi-mitigation.

Having gun on 80 I can says it’s not that bad but not that pretty either you rather don’t want to main tank as gun just because you can shar ur heal shield and deff cd. And don’t forget block get better with better shields. And for dungeon it works you have enough cds and camo isn’t so bad with 8 mobs hitting you on big pulls. But yeah always offtank