Housing relocation needs a timer

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Originally Posted by Celestialfai5

LaylaTsarra you do realise that I did address that by saying when there’s literally only one open housing plot on the entire world and the new players are all trying to get it for 20+ hours that it’s unfair that someone comes in and just takes it by relocating which then resets the timer. The new players then have to wait on the new only open plot and hope that someone doesn’t relocate again

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I understand that but that is/was the rationale as to why housing transfers are allowed and why they were even permitted during the follow up release of Shirogane housing along side the ability of FC housing to buy first. Perhaps there will be new rules when new wards and a housing district is added we'll have to wait and see.

I recently clicked a placard for over 8 hours to get a house (any house) on Balmung and was personally happy to be able to transfer to a poolside when the houses all went poof.

So basically you want to see housing transfers eliminated even though anyone transferring gives up a spot for that transfer and then have the same timer applied to them. Perhaps you'll get your wish when those housing additions come. I doubt we'll see any changes to the rules prior to that.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

I understand that but that is/was the rationale as to why housing transfers are allowed and why they were even permitted during the follow up release of Shirogane housing along side the ability of FC housing to buy first. Perhaps there will be new rules when new wards and a housing district is added we'll have to wait and see.

I recently clicked a placard for over 8 hours to get a house (any house) on Balmung and was personally happy to be able to transfer to a poolside when the houses all went poof.

So basically you want to see housing transfers eliminated even though anyone transferring gives up a spot for that transfer and then have the same timer applied to them. Perhaps you'll get your wish when those housing additions come. I doubt we'll see any changes to the rules prior to that.

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I can respect wanting the best spots, but there needs to be some way of allowing new buyers to actually have a chance, whether it’s fc or personal, new buyers are getting shafted. Waiting hours to MAYBE get a house is neither productive nor healthy and does not promote enjoyment and then having the timer be reset because of relocation is even worse. And people being able to have multiple houses definitely does not help matters.

And housing transfer is fine when it doesn’t reset the invisible timer and screw over anyone who has been waiting literally hours for a plot. If it’s on the same invisible timer then great, equal chances all round

Yeah....just lost a house after 10 hrs to a relocation and then a few minutes later they left...reseting the timer...

IMHO what I think would give more people a chance to get a house would be if they'd reverse the grandfathering for people that have multiple houses and force them to relinquish all but one per character per world.

Pay them back for the reliquinshment, of course, but force the freeing up of those plots. More plots in circulation means more chances for people to get houses.

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Originally Posted by redheadturk

IMHO what I think would give more people a chance to get a house would be if they'd reverse the grandfathering for people that have multiple houses and force them to relinquish all but one per character per world.

Pay them back for the reliquinshment, of course, but force the freeing up of those plots. More plots in circulation means more chances for people to get houses.

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This would do...absolutely nothing. I think you over estimate how much of an issue is. The majority of housing on most servers is single account owned. The houses people only log on once a month to keep and never do anything with them is an even bigger issue. I don't advocate taking things from people who earned them fairly under the old rules. And I don't even advocate for taking the houses from the people who do the bare minimum to keep them. Taking things from other people is not the way to fix this.

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Originally Posted by Azurith

This would do...absolutely nothing. I think you over estimate how much of an issue is. The majority of housing on most servers is single account owned. The houses people only log on once a month to keep and never do anything with them is an even bigger issue. I don't advocate taking things from people who earned them fairly under the old rules. And I don't even advocate for taking the houses from the people who do the bare minimum to keep them. Taking things from other people is not the way to fix this.

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I wouldn't advocate obvious abuse and greed either. The real question is, how many of those characters who own houses are actually active? I'm busy enough with one character... 10 or more? You'd have a full day just checking retainers and doing a single leveling roulette per character. Now, housing might be their only fascination in this game (doubtful, it's a big game), but there lies the greed when these multi-house-owners KNOW there is a demand.

@ such people: Have pity. The devs aren't helping but YOU can! Let a few go...

#altruism

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

I wouldn't advocate obvious abuse and greed either. The real question is, how many of those characters who own houses are actually active? I'm busy enough with one character... 10 or more? You'd have a full day just checking retainers and doing a single leveling roulette per character. Now, housing might be their only fascination in this game (doubtful, it's a big game), but there lies the greed when these multi-house-owners KNOW there is a demand.

@ such people: Have pity. The devs aren't helping but YOU can! Let a few go...

#altruism

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Actually people who do own multiple house are more active with said houses than your average player. Because generally housing is their end game. Its not greed, or abuse. They earned them the same way everyone else could before the rules changed. And giving up 20 houses (that's not the average that's an extreme case)? That's a drop in the bucket compared to the need that's out there and wouldn't solve *anything*. Those houses would be gone with in a day and we'd be back to square one. Adding more wards (like they've done since the grandfathering came into effect) has done more to help relieve the housing pressure than making someone give up the 2-3 "extra" houses they might have. It still wont really do anything to help someone get their dream plot. Honestly I'd like to see them introduce a dynamic ward system, where when a ward fills, it opens another. Remove the timer, and remove the restriction on alts purchasing houses on a server. Not robbing people who have put the time in effort to buy more than one house.

I agree, the housing system does need work--A LOT of work. But any help is better than none. And ya, those houses would be gone super fast, no doubt. And it might not seem like much, just a drop in the bucket, sure, but more than likely that'll be ten or more people who finally got what they were after an unknowable amount (days, week, months even). That'll be ten or more people who finally got an FC house, or a place to call home, or a feeling like they're actually a real member of this game. Heck, that might just be ten or more people you just made smile. Isn't that better than nothing? Do you REALLY need that many houses? This isn't the zombie apocalypse, it's ok to share!

Why hope for others to fix a problem when you can do something about it yourself, however small it may seem.

#altruism

Because, that was a ton of work someone else put in, and its not up to you or anyone else to tell them that they're wrong. And then they're stuck with a ton of furnishings that they have no where to put, or use. Some that took a lot of work to get (or real money off the mogstation) that they can't transfer to another character or ever have hopes of using again. And those 10 people will get a house, eventually. No need to take from someone else, to give it to another person. If they want to give it up on their own? Sure they're allowed to do that. *No one else even square enix* should make that decision for them.

#firstworldproblems?