Returners Question Corner: Should I do Anima or Eureka before Shadowbringers?

Eureka. Bunny parties in the higher levels are still worth getting stuff from to sell for gil and we dont know what the futures going to look like for it so Id do it now, it might wind up like diadem and be a dick to do alone or find a party for. Its no where near as bad as it used to be if still tedious. Anima you can do whenever.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

Eureka is definitely not a solo experience

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You can solo the entire thing, if you get into instances alone so the NMs scale down to being soloable. The problem is that you then have to spawn them instead of just waiting for someone else to spawn them for you.

Yes, NMs scale down to the amount of people in the instance, and you only need about 65% of them to show up to be able to kill it without too much difficulty. In this way, they future-proofed Eureka from conception.

You don't have to kill the bosses Pazuzu, Louhi or Penthesilea anymore because you can buy their items with Crystals from the Birdwatcher and the same will be so with Hydatos by 5.0. You can solo the NMs if nobody else is there (but there probably will be others there). You can buy all of the items required to make logos actions from the marketboard. You can skip Pyros' light step because the stats won't matter in 2-3 months.

In each Eureka, you just need to do the quests, level up, gather crystals from NMs and get light in pagos, all of which have been heavily buffed so you get more XP, more crystals, more light and NM spawns more easily. They'll likely apply more changes as it gets older.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

When SB drops, I believe the last golden opportunity to complete eureka would be the window between 5.0 and 5.1.

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Relic weapons are a big endgame for people who don't do high-end content. Almost every linkshell and FC I have ever been in has been full of people talking about how they are doing the various relics. Eureka will continue to live for as long as the game lives, just like the ARR and HW relics remain popular.

I have no idea what Anima is. Tried Eureka a few times, and found it was just a fast way to die, so I didn't bother with it further.
Is there any good reason to do it (and figure out how to survive?)

Anima refers to the 3.0 (Heavensward) glowy weapons for each job. Involves farming poetics and some other items a lot.

Eureka refers to the 4.0 (Stormblood) glowy weapons and armor for each job. Involves farming mainly Crystals and XP from NM fates, doing some quests and other odd things in each of four Eureka regions (Anemos, Pagos, Pyros and Hydatos).

You probably died in Eureka because you start a Elemental Level 1 and need to level up to Elemental Level 60 (1-20 in Anemos, 20-35 in Pagos, 35-50 in Pyros, 50-60 in Hydatos). The enemies are miles harder to solo than you are used to in the MSQ. Ask if you can be invited to the train in /shout and farm NMs with your party and you'll get all the XP and Crystals you need. They usually raise you if you die.

Both are long, tedious grinds that at least take days, although anima weapons have had significant nerfs so can be done faster. If you don't sleep you can do an anima weapon in about 48 hours.